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    titus eleven 650b

    she is just perfect now, what a fun bike handles awesome..waiting for my b2 to come...sold my last 26er this week.
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    Made a few subtle cockpit changes to the 44 Bikes SnakeDriver:



    Adjusted the saddle a bit, and went with a 50mm Titec Stem paired up to some Ragley Carnegie bars. Also went from bb7s to some Juicy 3s.

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    The Epic is epic!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vemeno View Post
    what fork is that?
    Fork was made for the bike. Here is a video about this bike.

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    Got my custom 650b-wheeled all 'rounder (think half way between a cyclocross and a touring bike) on the road last weekend! Lugged steel, red Hetres--smooooth ride.



    It's great on the gravel roads north of town...


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    That's a beauty ^^^^^^^^^^ What handlebars are those??

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    Beautiful Quiring. The first Quiring I saw was just after it had been raced in the Iceman in snow, dirt and sand. I still remember how the paint and workmanship still stood out underneath that mess and saying to myself "Scott sure knows how to make a bike".

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    Been raining for days here, bored I finally setup my Beasley tubeless on Stans 355 hoops. Yellow tape and Stans valves with DIsmellbacon's Jungle juice.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MMcG View Post
    That's a beauty ^^^^^^^^^^ What handlebars are those??
    Nitto Noodles (44cm) from Rivendell, of course!

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelbike View Post
    Beautiful Quiring. The first Quiring I saw was just after it had been raced in the Iceman in snow, dirt and sand. I still remember how the paint and workmanship still stood out underneath that mess and saying to myself "Scott sure knows how to make a bike".

    Thanks! First lugged bike he'd done in a while but it seems to have come back to him. He said he got his start working with lugs and switched to TIG welding as the market changed)

    This one won't go racing but it sure ain't going to stay clean...

    Head badge and Pacenti fork crown--already a little dirty!


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    my rawland. i run it 650b offroad and 700c on road with 28's.



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    DekerfTeamST, you still riding the Siren Song SL 650b?

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    Chinese carbon 1 X 9 hardtail



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    Chinese carbon 1 X 9 hardtail

    What is the weight on that budget bomber?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wc1 View Post
    DekerfTeamST, you still riding the Siren Song SL 650b?
    Yes, I still have the Siren.

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    Those frames regularlly are BIN for 350-400ish on ebay. Even thou its a slightly older frame design it is a pretty darn good deal. I was going to do this myself last year but ended up with something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waterat Pat View Post
    Chinese carbon 1 X 9 hardtail

    What is the weight on that budget bomber?
    Not as light as it was with 26" ZTR Crests laced to King hubs, and even then it was surprisingly "heavy" for a hardtail 1 x 9.

    It's 24 lbs and change with WTB laser disc trail rim laced to XT hub front, and a Velocity Blunt laced to XT hub rear; Neo 2.1 tires both ends. Per the Berkeley fish scale in my shop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottybinwv View Post
    Those frames regularlly are BIN for 350-400ish on ebay. Even thou its a slightly older frame design it is a pretty darn good deal. I was going to do this myself last year but ended up with something else.
    Frame is 2 seasons old, bought direct on AliExpress

    Just finished the 650b conversion Sunday. Wheels were handbuilt.
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    A nice one at the CCFR. - Steve Garro, Coconino Cycles.
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    a couple more from the CCFR the blue bike & the green are 650B http://coconinocycles.blogspot.com/2...n-random.html- Steve Garro, Coconino Cycles.
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    Steve, there are are some fine looking bikes on your blog at the CCFR!

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    a couple more from the CCFR the blue bike & the green are 650B http://coconinocycles.blogspot.com/2...n-random.html- Steve Garro, Coconino Cycles.

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    Is that a custom frame?

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    here's mine, just got done building it today (built the frame in june, been selling off parts and paying bills, biding my time to get this done). it will hit its first trail in about 9 hours.


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    thanks!

    those are the titec h-bars. i scored a pair of xtr dual action shifters off ebays. they work absolutely awesome together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by loose chain View Post
    here's mine, just got done building it today (built the frame in june, been selling off parts and paying bills, biding my time to get this done). it will hit its first trail in about 9 hours.

    Nice bike. More details on it if you have some time please.

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    thanks. of course. put it through it's first paces today (albeit without a seat- the clamp snapped just as we were heading out, took out the post and rode standing the whole way today). what a blast to ride something you made yourself.

    so i built the frame at UBI- basically copied the geometry of a 16" b-side, tweaked a little here and there.

    and have been dead broke as a result of that trip, so have built it up using a combo of old chainlove purchases, stuff i've scored locally, old parts laying around, and various purchases as i could make em.

    P-35/XT wheels, nevegals. x-9 9 speed shifters and RD (new). old xtr FD and a used 170mm XX crankset i got cheap. '08 velvet r fork scored on ebay- sent to factory for rebuild/650 conversion. rest of it's just cobbled together. really dig the noah's arc bar. (coming from a couple years on a mary)

    and i'm sure i was just jacked today- but it ate up the trail. none of the washout my shortish frame always gets with 29ers, but felt "big" rolling over the rough stuff. i think i'll have to give this thing a few more test runs this week to get an objective verdict...

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelbike View Post
    Steve, there are are some fine looking bikes on your blog at the CCFR!
    Thanks, Man! It sure was fun. I think we'll try for another one next year! - Steve Garro, Coconino Cycles.
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    A few pics of my SnakeDriver when it was configured with Inverted Mary Bars. I think I may try this set up with my current set of Carnegie bars inverted!




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    650B Ventana

    Not sure I ever posted my Ventana El Ciclon converted to a dual 650B ride on this forum... It has the rear triangle of the El Bastardo and a Fox Talas 150. The only geometry issue that came up with the conversion is the high BB height, but I compensate with 30% sag in the rear. This has turned out to be the perfect machine for day-long rides on the rough trails in the Rockies.
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    Wow those Nevegals really fill out when paired up with those Blunts. Nice. I just received a pair of white blunt rims from Renold Yip of Yipsan bikes and plan on having them built up and paired up with some Nevs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMcG View Post
    Wow those Nevegals really fill out when paired up with those Blunts. Nice. I just received a pair of white blunt rims from Renold Yip of Yipsan bikes and plan on having them built up and paired up with some Nevs!
    they're actually P-35s. and yeah- haven't measured them on rim yet, but they look and feel more like 2.3s or 2.4s. (they're 2.1s)

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    oh, you meant the ventana...

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    Quote Originally Posted by loose chain View Post
    oh, you meant the ventana...
    These are blunt rims on the Ventana.They give a nice and wide footprint with the Nevegals and have been holding true after 2 seasons on chunky trails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loose chain View Post
    oh, you meant the ventana...
    yeah but the P35s and your 2.1 Nevegal combo doesn't look to shabby either!

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    ^^^^^^Wicked Cool!^^^^^^^^^^^^

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    New Handlebar configuration:






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    Quote Originally Posted by newenglandbike View Post
    Nicely done!

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    Thanks a lot. The Quasi Motos are wicked fun in the woods.

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    Here is my On One Scandal with Velocity Blunt SL 650B's...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrphein View Post
    Here is my On One Scandal with Velocity Blunt SL 650B's...
    More bigger and better pics please! Let us see the clearance at the seat stays and chain stays please.

    Is this the Slot Dropout ScandAL?

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    Mrphein: what is the BB height with those wheels?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveF View Post
    Got my custom 650b-wheeled all 'rounder (think half way between a cyclocross and a touring bike) on the road last weekend! Lugged steel, red Hetres--smooooth ride.

    Steve: wow! That's a sweet looking ride! Nice to know it's in mid-Michigan

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    The BB height is 12.5 inches.

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    Yes, this is the Slot drop out Scandal (horizontal drops). I will try to post the pics they are pretty large in size and I was having issues loading them. I will try to crop them down.

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    I hope these work.
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    Sweet. Is the wheel far back in the slot dropout?

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    is that 26er scandal? my 26er inbred with neo motos and 100mm x-fusion enix fork (480mm unsagged) has BB height of 13.5"!! and it is quite high for my taste
    which fox fork is that (what a-c length unsagged)
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    Heres mine, (bad phone pic)


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    Is that a tapered fork on your Defcon? Also, where can these bikes be purchased?

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    Quote Originally Posted by djembe975 View Post
    Is that a tapered fork on your Defcon? Also, where can these bikes be purchased?
    Yep, Tapered X-Fusion Velvet.

    Cant be purchased as, not made it to production yet.

    Cheers

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    Can you tell me when they will be available and for how much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stu44 View Post
    Heres mine, (bad phone pic)


    Oh Yeah - That's a wicked nice bike!

    Awesome!

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    Yes, that is the 26" Scandal Slot Dropout. I would say the skewer is about half way back in the slot. The tires are the Kenda Nevegal 2.1X650 and I am using the FOX RLC Float 32 for 26" wheels (I guess it works for 650b's) What do you mean by a to c measurement?

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    better pic of the 26er scandal.
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    No good

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    Can you tell me when they will be available and for how much?
    Not 100% sure as yet, on either question.
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    Hey Stu,

    I thought you dropped off the world... don't forget to contact me when you get pricing and delivery times!
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    Quote Originally Posted by stu44 View Post
    Not 100% sure as yet, on either question.
    I sure hope you can make them available and at a price where they'd sell well!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by warwickcruz View Post
    Here are both of my 650B.
    How do you like that Jamis 650B? Do you have any trouble keeping up with 29er's? It's something some people here keep saying to me to dissuade me from buying a 650B..

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    Mrphein: Is that FOX 80mm or 100mm travel? a-c distance is distance from centre of the hub axle to the crown (axle to crown) ("B" on this picture: http://www.viciouscycles.com/images/...fork-specs.gif )

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    Custom 16" 650b Gunnar Ruffian

    Just got this last Friday after a 5 week build time on the frame. It is an amazing ride and very light. Gunnar/Waterford builds an awesome frame. I will NEVER ride a 29er again after this beauty. It handles like a 26" but rolls over objects much better. The paragon sliders are great as well. Built it with Stan's Crest Wheels, Race Face SS Crank, 2012 Fox F100 RLC Fit Fork, Quasi Motos and a Ritchey WCS post, stem and bar with Fizik Tundra 2 saddle. Chris King headset as well....
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    Quote Originally Posted by kcmtnbiker View Post
    Just got this last Friday after a 5 week build time on the frame. It is an amazing ride and very light. Gunnar/Waterford builds an awesome frame. I will NEVER ride a 29er again after this beauty. It handles like a 26" but rolls over objects much better. The paragon sliders are great as well. Built it with Stan's Crest Wheels, Race Face SS Crank, 2012 Fox F100 RLC Fit Fork, Quasi Motos and a Ritchey WCS post, stem and bar with Fizik Tundra 2 saddle. Chris King headset as well....
    Nice!! Looks super. Sounds like a great riding bike. Weight of final build? Be interested in the geo for it. What were you riding prior to it?

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    Theo Top Tube is 22.04"
    Head Tube is 4.13"
    Head Angle is 71
    Seat Tube Angle is 74
    Seat Tube C to C is 13.5"
    Seat Tube C to Top is 16.3"
    Chainstays 16.73"

    My last SS before this was a 2011 Trek/Fisher Rig 29er. It sucked, super slow handling and so hard to pick lines with it. I haven't weighed it yet but I'm guessing 18lbs. Lightest steel frame i've laid my hands on. I bought a Haro Beasley frame before ordering the Gunnar but never built it up. It was a total pig. I bet the frame weighed 3lbs more than the Gunnar

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcmtnbiker View Post
    Theo Top Tube is 22.04"
    Head Tube is 4.13"
    Head Angle is 71
    Seat Tube Angle is 74
    Seat Tube C to C is 13.5"
    Seat Tube C to Top is 16.3"
    Chainstays 16.73"

    My last SS before this was a 2011 Trek/Fisher Rig 29er. It sucked, super slow handling and so hard to pick lines with it. I haven't weighed it yet but I'm guessing 18lbs. Lightest steel frame i've laid my hands on. I bought a Haro Beasley frame before ordering the Gunnar but never built it up. It was a total pig. I bet the frame weighed 3lbs more than the Gunnar
    Thanks much. Sounds like a super set up too. I checked out a Haro B, very 'stout' The Gunnar sounds like a winner

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    Wow that Gunnar is super sweet! Nicely done with the build too!!

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    Nice ride kcmtnbiker! If the "kc" in your name is the same as in mine I'll be looking for you on the local singletrack. Definitely like to see the bike first hand.

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    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/somuchforsale/6248173240/" title="IMAG0614 by veloreality, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6050/6248173240_a0500c1248_b.jpg" width="1024" height="612" alt="IMAG0614"></a>

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/somuchforsale/6228412810/" title="IMAG0415 by veloreality, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6112/6228412810_e45f097254_b.jpg" width="1024" height="612" alt="IMAG0415"></a>
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    The dude is like 120lbs, tops lol he can run any tires he wants without issues, i'm sure.

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    heres my v27.5 Darkside super fast racing bicycle. 22.x lbs with no real exotic parts.


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    Quote Originally Posted by barroom hero View Post
    heres my v27.5 Darkside super fast racing bicycle. 22.x lbs with no real exotic parts.

    All business!

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    sry

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    Really cool!

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    Quote Originally Posted by barroom hero View Post
    heres my v27.5 Darkside super fast racing bicycle. 22.x lbs with no real exotic parts.

    What's the geo on that hot ride:
    Wheelbase, chainstay and angles?

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    2012 SC Blur XC carbon

    Here is my just built (1 1/2 months ago) Santa Cruz Blur XC carbon.
    I run it both as a 26" and a 650b, but prefer the bigger wheels in most cases.

    I built it up using a 120mm Fox Float fork with the 15mm T/A, complete SRAM XX, with 175mm cranks, 39/26 chainrings and an 11-36 cassette. American Classic wheels, ran tubeless with Kenda 2.1 Nevegals, Time pedals, SDG carbon I-beam seatpost with a SDG I-fly saddle, Hurricane Stelvio 120mm stem, Easton Monkeylite carbon bars, ODI lock-on grips.

    While using the 26" wheels, I run WTB MutanoRaptor race 2.4 tires, which I believe to be the best tire in all conditions...too bad they dont make them in 650b, I seem to hit the cranks/ pedals on rocks and such, the problem is somewhat eliviated while using the 650b wheels, but I still believe 26" wheels climb faster than both the 650b wheels and most certainly than 29er wheels, but the 650b wheels( as well as 29ers) roll over obstacles better.
    This bike is awesome with both wheel sizes in every sitution, be it climbing, desending, rolling the flats, technical sections and tight singletrack.
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    Awesome!!!

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    Wow, I have a Blur XC Carbon as well, my 650b wheel will not clear my frame to even put the rear wheel in.... Interested in seeing pics of the clearance between the tire and rear swingarm

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    Anyone tried or can try a Blur TRc.....

    To kcmtnbiker, try letting some air out of the tyre....pretty sure it will go in then....

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    Quote Originally Posted by barroom hero View Post
    heres my v27.5 Darkside super fast racing bicycle. 22.x lbs with no real exotic parts.

    Do you have any more pictures of that thing built up all mean?

    For those interested in the numbers:-
    Phenomenally simple:

    70/72/17"/12.2"
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    Can't remember the TT and HT length. Probabally 115mm ht and 23.4" tt.

    That thing looks great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcmtnbiker View Post
    Wow, I have a Blur XC Carbon as well, my 650b wheel will not clear my frame to even put the rear wheel in.... Interested in seeing pics of the clearance between the tire and rear swingarm
    What tyre are you running? I'm lovin' my recently refurb'ed Blur XCc with 650s - dropped fork travel to 100mm to tame some front-end floppiness and now it just *flies*...
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    New wheels and tires and a few other bits and pieces:


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    Well, I suppose I'll post my 650B IF Deluxe even though I have an entire thread dedicated to the build.

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    My Rawland rSogn, freshly cleaned after getting rad at Duthie Hill this weekend:


    Put it back into town mode and mounted up a taillight the other night:

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    Nice rSogn!

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    I will post pic's later of the clearence between swingarm and tire, but there is plenty of it. There is about 1/2" clearence on the bottom link, which is the closes the tire comes to any other part of the frame. Im using a 2.1 Kenda Nevegal mounted on American Classic 650BXC wheels. I have never had any clearence issues, even when bottomed out.

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    I will try letting the air out of the tire to fit the rear 650b wheel in my SC Blur XC Carbon. I didn't think to even try this because the tire hit the bottom of the suspension link right away so I thought there was no way this was going to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuspectDevice View Post
    That thing looks great!
    I agree. Wicked nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misterdangerpants View Post
    Well, I suppose I'll post my 650B IF Deluxe even though I have an entire thread dedicated to the build.

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    Here are the pics of the rear tire at the lower linkage of my SC Blur XC carbon
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    Quote Originally Posted by misterdangerpants View Post
    Well, I suppose I'll post my 650B IF Deluxe even though I have an entire thread dedicated to the build.
    I can tell by looking at it that this bike doesn't fit you. Do yourself a favor and PM to trade bikes.

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    A fresh build for a local. He's already got a gen 1 Bside too. He sold a Drakkar to get this. Probably going to change up gearing to get a shorter stay length.

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/48107563@N00/6288417647/" title="IMAG0061 by unclefuzzy_ss, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6034/6288417647_8f403c581b_b.jpg" width="1024" height="613" alt="IMAG0061"></a>

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/48107563@N00/6288417143/" title="IMAG0060 by unclefuzzy_ss, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6225/6288417143_502c572557_b.jpg" width="1024" height="613" alt="IMAG0060"></a>
    Just a regular guy.

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    Marty is that a Cromoto or Cromoto Grande fork up front?

    That looks mighty sharp!!

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    Tis is a Cromoto Grande. He's got one on his other B that he really likes. As an aside, he uses the other Bside as a pump track bike...
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    Just a regular guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~martini~ View Post
    Tis is a Cromoto Grande. He's got one on his other B that he really likes. As an aside, he uses the other Bside as a pump track bike...
    Marty do you have a sense of how the 29er fork alters the HT angle, ST angle and bb height on the Soma?? I'm guessing things get a little bit more slack at HT/ST and the bb height goes up a tad correct?

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    Hey Martini, what size B-side version 2 frame is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMcG View Post
    Marty do you have a sense of how the 29er fork alters the HT angle, ST angle and bb height on the Soma?? I'm guessing things get a little bit more slack at HT/ST and the bb height goes up a tad correct?
    Soma's geo says a HTA of 71-degrees with a 453mm A-to-C fork. The Cromoto Grande is 468mm A-to-C. That 15mm is going to push the HTA to 70'ish and prob take .5-degree off the STA as well. I bet the change in BB height is barely noticeable.

    I'll say again that I absolutely Love my v1 B-Side with a Lefty. The Lefty's A-to-C is 470mm, so when sagged gets it back down to the upper 450's..perfect for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by ohpossum View Post
    Soma's geo says a HTA of 71-degrees with a 453mm A-to-C fork. The Cromoto Grande is 468mm A-to-C. That 15mm is going to push the HTA to 70'ish and prob take .5-degree off the STA as well. I bet the change in BB height is barely noticeable.

    I'll say again that I absolutely Love my v1 B-Side with a Lefty. The Lefty's A-to-C is 470mm, so when sagged gets it back down to the upper 450's..perfect for me


    Yep - my question is based on the fact that I'd prefer the type of angles that bike probably achieves by using the Cromoto Grande.

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    Just 650b'd my wife's 2010 Litespeed Ocoee. Not bad clearance. Might be tough on a muddy day. 1/4" maybe...
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    carbontubulars, can you give me alittle info about that fork. is it a 100mm fork and how much clearance do you have with that fork. it looks like a 2010 fork and I don't think the crowns have changed for 2012.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~martini~ View Post
    Tis is a Cromoto Grande. He's got one on his other B that he really likes. As an aside, he uses the other Bside as a pump track bike...
    Glad to see this. I just picked up a V1 and I am going to use a salsa fork to see if I can stomach the handling. Should have me in the 70 degree HA still, and there is only one fork with correct a-c on the market and it has curved fork legs. No thanks.

    Which brings me to my question (which is never stated. Oops)- the Soma B-Side is based on a 80mm 650b fork, and I don't know anyone in my area that has 80mm forks. Everything is at least 100mm. If Soma had just designed their frame around a 100mm 650b fork, the geometry of the bike would be almost spot on for every 29er rigid fork on the market.

    Now we're on V2 for the B-side and- wait for it- they did 80mm 650b suspension correction again. Dammit.

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