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    That's purty PSU. I'm finding suspension takes too much effort at times. Rigid is speedy simplicity. I'm still not sure bout all this carbon stuff, but that things simply purrrrty.

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    Rode 650b for the 1st time today. Changing this 2010 Epic to 650b was fantastic--it gave the bike new life!


    I go through so many different bikes because I get bored with them. 26er geared, 26er ss, 26er rigid ss, 26er full squish, 29er ss, 29er geared, and now 650b full squish.
    I think I may just keep this one for awhile.

    I now know what I suspected: 650b DEFINITELY has a place in the mountain biking world!
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    Will be curious to see how the XMark does on the back. Have you run those tires before in 26" and/or picked due to their size/fit in the rr triangle?

    Thanks in advance
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    Flashy!

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    The Red Fox is back. On one 456C with a 2x9 drive train.

    Won't be hard to find that thing in a blizzard!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMac47 View Post
    Will be curious to see how the XMark does on the back. Have you run those tires before in 26" and/or picked due to their size/fit in the rr triangle?

    Thanks in advance
    Actually, I just picked the Crossmark (2.1)because I've loved it as a 29er & 26er tire in the rear. And I've always wanted to run the Nobby Nics (2.25), and found a sweet deal on Pro Bike Supply. The rear triangle of the Epic has quite a bit more room, I'm pretty sure I could fit a 2.25 back there.
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    that epic is super nice. I'm finding that 650b breathes a lot of new life into older, 26" XC FS frames. My rush has only 4.3" of travel and it feels great. Doesn't feel terribly dissimilar from my longer travel bikes in the past, but it's a bit more efficient and it really just moves under power. It would be neat to experiment with a few others to see how cheap you could build a 650b trail bike...

    I know I paid like $650 for my rush, before I started going crazy with upgrades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandwich View Post
    that epic is super nice. I'm finding that 650b breathes a lot of new life into older, 26" XC FS frames. My rush has only 4.3" of travel and it feels great. Doesn't feel terribly dissimilar from my longer travel bikes in the past, but it's a bit more efficient and it really just moves under power. It would be neat to experiment with a few others to see how cheap you could build a 650b trail bike...

    I know I paid like $650 for my rush, before I started going crazy with upgrades.
    Yeah, I agree with you. I wholeheartedly believe that 650b isn't just for the AM crowd. The XC 80-100mm travel bikes feel really sweet with 650b under them. I hope the bike industry takes notice.
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    A little fun in the snow

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    Intense 275

    Large Flow Green Tracer 275. Weighs 31 with the BMX Test Ride Pedals.
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    650b rush

    2007 rush 4, stans crest 650 w tubeless racing ralphs, sram xo shifter and rear derailluer, E13 offset 40t chainring and xcx chainguide on a sram s1400 crank. Ec70 carbon straight handlebars.

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    40t!
    Quads of steel.

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    down in south fla. no mountains. able to use the whole cassette with a 39-40. anything smaller just overspin

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    sounds kinda liberating, up no'th here I'm running a 32x11-36 and am generally stuck on the lower side of it.

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    Nice intense and rush!!!

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    Whippet converted. 20.6 lbs no pedals, add a pound for some Saint pedals, or a little less for some XTRs.





    Fork clearance, for those that are curious. I get some leaves jammed up in there, but so far it's smooth sailing.


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    Always confuses me...

    Quote Originally Posted by rice rocket View Post
    Whippet converted. 20.6 lbs no pedals, add a pound for some Saint pedals, or a little less for some XTRs.





    Fork clearance, for those that are curious. I get some leaves jammed up in there, but so far it's smooth sailing.

    How DO you guys pedal those lite bikes without pedals?
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    wat.

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    2008 Norco Six. American Classic wheels, neo 2.1's at the moment...2.3's on the way.
    Such good fun...always was but now it even climbs! Frame has tons of clearance.
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    Thats where the dog comes in

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    How DO you guys pedal those lite bikes without pedals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMac47 View Post
    How DO you guys pedal those lite bikes without pedals?
    I wonder myself why I can't get away with advertising my bike's weight without other necessary components. "Yeah, my new AM rig is super-light. 24lbs without fork"

    The justification seems to be along the lines that your pedals are a personal preference that you'll choose for yourself. I don't see how that argument holds up when you mention saddles (which touch you more intimately), grips (which are your other contact points with the bike), bar and stem lengths, tires, or any other component with some sort of weight tradeoff and personal preference involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMac47 View Post
    How DO you guys pedal those lite bikes without pedals?
    I wonder myself why I can't get away with advertising my bike's weight without other necessary components. "Yeah, my new AM rig is super-light. 24lbs without fork! So add three to six pounds depending..."

    The justification seems to be along the lines that your pedals are a personal preference that you'll choose for yourself. I don't see how that argument holds up when you mention saddles (which touch you more intimately), grips (which are your other contact points with the bike), bar and stem lengths, tires, or any other component with some sort of weight tradeoff and personal preference involved.

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    Really

    Quote Originally Posted by lazarus2405 View Post
    I wonder myself why I can't get away with advertising my bike's weight without other necessary components. "Yeah, my new AM rig is super-light. 24lbs without fork! So add three to six pounds depending..."

    The justification seems to be along the lines that your pedals are a personal preference that you'll choose for yourself. I don't see how that argument holds up when you mention saddles (which touch you more intimately), grips (which are your other contact points with the bike), bar and stem lengths, tires, or any other component with some sort of weight tradeoff and personal preference involved.
    I think it's the manufacturers that started it all! Marketing ploy on the mid/higher end bikes to oogle us with the placebo affect of having the lightest bike on the market!
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    The point is I run different pedals in the winter, so yes, the weight changes. I posted the pedal weights right there, you can do a little addition, can't you?

    This ain't rocket science.

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    Bianchi S.A.S.S. 650B on the cheap

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    Here's FF044 just as I head out the door to Firefly to have the chainstays replaced to make this a dedicated 650B beast. I initially designed this as an urban creature, but am finding I'm having far more fun on singletrack.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pourbaix22 View Post


    Bianchi S.A.S.S. 650B on the cheap
    Is that an RS 29er fork?
    "I wrote a hit play! What have you ever done?!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pourbaix22 View Post


    Bianchi S.A.S.S. 650B on the cheap
    Nice pickup, it'll pay priceless trail rides. Even if the trail is the road to the local coffeeshop. You should post your Shiny here too!

    Post your Bianchi SS 650b conversion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattsavage View Post
    Is that an RS 29er fork?
    Yup rockshox 80mm travel, works like a champ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rice rocket View Post
    Fork clearance, for those that are curious. I get some leaves jammed up in there, but so far it's smooth sailing.

    What tire (Schwalbe Nobby Nic?) and size is it?

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    From another thread

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    What tire (Schwalbe Nobby Nic?) and size is it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gvs_nz View Post
    While my longer Forks are on other bikes, my Marin Wolf ridge, with F120, in 650B mode .With F120, I think it's about 68ish head angle and about 13.75" BB.
    I'm considering doing the same thing with my wolf ridge with Lyrik fork. Any issues with the rear end? How's clearance fully compressed?

    Thanks

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    Santa Cruz Butcher 650B

    Here's my ride. Haven't had a chance to ride it yet. Looking forward to some better weather.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMac47 View Post
    I think it's the manufacturers that started it all! Marketing ploy on the mid/higher end bikes to oogle us with the placebo affect of having the lightest bike on the market!
    Bikes are typically weighed without pedals. Why? Because very few high end bikes come with pedals, because people typically have their own pedal preferences. Since there are no pedals, there are no pedals to weigh with the bike. I guess those that have never owned a high end bike might not get this because their bikes have always come with pedals. People on these forums weigh their custom bikes without pedals so that it is possible to reference their bikes weight to the weight of manufacturer's bikes. Or in this case because he uses two different types of pedals.
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    Freak Bike!

    650b + ERB Frame + Lefty + ENO Eccentric SingleSpeed

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    Mudfoot- I LOVE that color on the Butcher. Great looking bike, you'll love it.

    Here's my recently built Blur LT. I've taken her out on 3-4 rides so far, and I'm a huge fan. It's the perfect mix of 26" & 29" for the type of riding I do here in CO. Once in a while I wish I had the downhill performance of my old NomadC, but the Blur is a more fun bike all around. (I typically have to climb 1500-2000 feet in order to get the downhill) I don't know the exact weight, but I'm guessing it's around 28 lbs. I like the WTB Wolverine on the rear wheel, but I eventually want to get a wider front tire.








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    Quote Originally Posted by smmokan View Post
    Mudfoot- I LOVE that color on the Butcher. Great looking bike, you'll love it.

    Here's my recently built Blur LT. I've taken her out on 3-4 rides so far, and I'm a huge fan. It's the perfect mix of 26" & 29" for the type of riding I do here in CO. Once in a while I wish I had the downhill performance of my old NomadC, but the Blur is a more fun bike all around. (I typically have to climb 1500-2000 feet in order to get the downhill) I don't know the exact weight, but I'm guessing it's around 28 lbs. I like the WTB Wolverine on the rear wheel, but I eventually want to get a wider front tire.







    Thanks. Yours looks good as well. Mine weighs 31.25lbs with the pedals. Im coming from a bike that was a little over 40lbs. So this thing feels lite to me.

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    Zuess Pics

    Zeus!
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    I just noticed Ventana uses little "road bike" images for it's trail and all mountain catagory avatars.. WTH???
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    The downhill guy has a fanny pack too.

    Quote Originally Posted by stiingya View Post


    I just noticed Ventana uses little "road bike" images for it's trail and all mountain catagory avatars.. WTH???

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    650B Picture Thread-2013-intense-carbine-27.5.jpg4 months on the 2013 intense carbine 27.5...best bike ever!

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    Another TRc conversion

    Nobby Nic 2.25's on Arch EX wheels.
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    Good job!

    Beautiful picture

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    Nicolai AC Pinion 650b


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    Quote Originally Posted by norcosam View Post
    Nicolai AC Pinion 650b

    More on this bike man!!!! The Internal Gear Box on this bike will probably escape most viewers eyes. How does she ride? There's a Rolhoff in that G-Box, correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gtoscott1970 View Post
    More on this bike man!!!! The Internal Gear Box on this bike will probably escape most viewers eyes. How does she ride? There's a Rolhoff in that G-Box, correct?
    More info in the Nicolai forum Nicolai AC 650b Pinion..Build
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    any mor pics of that 650b giant xtc fr from page 32?

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    KHS Sixfifty Team SRAM XX1 With Wheels I Built, Great ride, love the bike

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    my 650 b

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    my first 650b

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    Quote Originally Posted by Motomatt View Post
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    Whoah - what fork is that?

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    More pictures. Please!!!

    What frame is this and what size?

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    Quote Originally Posted by running View Post
    More pictures. Please!!!

    What frame is this and what size?
    I think you might find it in this thread:

    Chinese Carbon Frames - 650b edition

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    Quote Originally Posted by guize View Post
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    Abs!
    How do you like this setup? giant xtc with the 650b wheels? building up a bike very similar to this. You have any more pics possibly?

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    Cool-blue Rhythm About my 650b

    [QUOTE=steelbike;10134349]I think you might find it in this thread:




    Actually its from hongkong. its a size 17". Weights in at 2#. All components are brand new in box sram xx 2012. Xfusion velvet rl2 fork 130mm.. hawk racing BB. 2012 sram xx crank. The seat post and handlebars are Merek carbon. Super light. Wheelset are WTB Laser disc w/shimano hubs wrapped with Vee Rubber Mission tires , my favorite tires in the workld. Planning on getting DT swiss wheelset later for upgrade. Carbon FSA stem w/titanium bolts. Sram xx World cup Brake levers and calipers. 160mm disc shimano. 2x10 sram xx shifters. 1070 cassette. KMC gold chain. Havent ridden yet. waiting on sram xx front deraileur to be delivered. should be riding this weekend and will tell more about the ride later next week.. should be a great ride!! cant wait!!

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    another view

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    Niner Bikes Carbon RDO 29" disc fork, 1.5>1-1/8"(tapered)15mm T-A

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    Quote Originally Posted by PSE View Post
    New picture of the Scale:

    This thing is just my speed. 26 frame I take it? How's clearance? Pics?

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    Here's my very recently completed 2012 Santa Cruz Superlight conversion.

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    I shortened the fork travel to 110mm to match the axle-to-crown of the spec'd 120mm fork, put a couple thin spacers into the shock to shorten stroke by a few mm, and cut off the front derailleur cable stop for wheel clearance. This bike is awesome! The bottom bracket height feels ideal for my trails, the wheelbase is unaffected, and the slightly shorter travel isn't really noticeable. The wheels aren't light, however, so that's noticeable, but worth it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mountainbiker24 View Post
    Here's my very recently completed 2012 Santa Cruz Superlight conversion.

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    Very nice. I'm building one up also but mine's 10 years older.

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    Here is my SixFiveO Remedy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carl.D View Post
    Here is my SixFiveO Remedy
    What fork is that? And please share tire clearance in front &amp; rear (and identify your tire/rim combo.

    I have a 2011remedy and fox 32 fork and wondering if i can pull off a conversion without raising the bb too much, also I push the bike hard and wheels/fork do flex so ample clearance is an important safety factor.

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    Look under 2013 Trek Remedy with 2.35 tire pics, I have pictures under that post you will find interesting.

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    Its the stock fork that came with the bike, BB is about 13.2" at about 28% sag. Its only about 1/2" higher then stock.

    Wheels are DT Swiss M1700 and Nevagal 2.35 tires, I really don't like the tires, I will soon upgrade to something lighter.
    Clearance is great, if you find my other post you will see that I have about 10mm clearance on the rear, front is no problem either.

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    Nice bike. My wife is riding a Carbon Lush with 142 x12 dropout, do you know or anybody know if the two rear triangles are similiar in spacing. Would a 650b fit in the rear of a Lush (2012) the green and white ones) She has a Soma 650bSide now but likes the extra 5 in travel.

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    I really dont know about the Lush,,, There is one at the shop I go to, the next time I go I will look at it and see what clearance it has..

    142x12 makes a nice mod doesnt it,,,,, I really liked mine when I converted it to 12mm.

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    Thanks man that would be sweet. Her bike came with the 142x12 I didn't mod it. Did you?? And if so what did you have to do?
    What size is your fork and is it a CTD 2012 or newer?

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    I really dont know about the Lush,,, There is one at the shop I go to, the next time I go I will look at it and see what clearance it has..

    142x12 makes a nice mod doesnt it,,,,, I really liked mine when I converted it to 12mm.
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    Broke my 650B bike so Im gonna run my 650B wheels on my Yelli Screamy 29er for awhile & see how it goes.
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    Burner

    New Burner build completed last weekend. Can't wait to hit the trails this coming weekend.650B Picture Thread-pics-003.jpg650B Picture Thread-pics-005.jpg650B Picture Thread-pics-007.jpg650B Picture Thread-pics-008.jpg650B Picture Thread-pics-011.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by liteandfast View Post
    Thanks man that would be sweet. Her bike came with the 142x12 I didn't mod it. Did you?? And if so what did you have to do?
    What size is your fork and is it a CTD 2012 or newer?
    I just had to buy the Maxle and the conversion kit, no biggie.
    The fork is CTD, I guess its a 13, It came on the bike and its a 13 model.

    Oh yea, when I bought my wheels I had to buy 142x12 also. Obviously

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    My Blur LTc

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    One more Blur TRc 650b - 23.029 pounds

    Coming from a Niner SIR9 single speed I'm having to relearn how to ride a full suspension again but so far (3rides) I love this bike!650B Picture Thread-mud-2.jpg
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    By:stickel - Custom 650b

    I just finished building up a custom 650b Bystickel AM hardtail. I believe the frame was originally designed around 26" but as you can see from the last pic it has ample clearance for a 2.35 Hans Dampf on a Pacenti rim. Fork is 130mm White Brothers Fluid, but she will most likely be getting either an x-fusion vengeance (spaced to 125) or a 36 Talas. The trails around me have over a foot of snow still so I haven't had a chance to ride it but I can't wait. Just tooling around the parking lot it feels fantastic. Also, big kudos to Bystickel....the attention to detail and build quality on this frame are outstanding....on par with the best I have seen (this coming from a guy who owns a Steve Potts bike and Moots among others). Steve Stickel throws it down hard.
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    Nice build, but clutter up the shop next time you take photos. Looks a liiiiiittle too organized.
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    The workbenches are usually pretty organized....the storage area on the other hand
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    Here's a quick few shots of mine ~95% built up. Still needs a few minor details dialed-in, including the brakes and chainring bolts...

    Fully 650iBis converted!
    Wanted to run my rigid Tange fork, but the WTB 2.2 Wolverine would not clear on the corners...
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    ^ before Shadow Plus and Type 2 clutches, there was Bullet Bro's!!!


    I'll post some better shots after I wrap it up and get it on some dirt!
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    ^ before Shadow Plus and Type 2 clutches, there was Bullet Bro's!!!


    I'll post some better shots after I wrap it up and get it on some dirt!
    Isn't that a solution for a problem that does not really exist?

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    Re: 650B Picture Thread

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    Isn't that a solution for a problem that does not really exist?
    No

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    Quote Originally Posted by indyfab25 View Post
    No

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred Smedley View Post
    Isn't that a solution for a problem that does not really exist?
    Yup. Kind of reminds me of the grip shift bass worm. Something else to bolt on that actually has a negative effect on performance. Just get an MRP 1x or, if on a budget, lock out an old front D to act as your chain guide.
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    It's not a chain guide. It's to prevent or minimize chain slap, like the clutch derailleurs now do. It's annoying when your derailleur is clanging around. I really don't understand why people rip on stuff they know nothing about.

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    I know it's FUGLY , that's all I need to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mountainbiker24 View Post
    It's not a chain guide. It's to prevent or minimize chain slap, like the clutch derailleurs now do. It's annoying when your derailleur is clanging around. I really don't understand why people rip on stuff they know nothing about.
    Oh I know what it is. I have installed them for customers (back in the day). I also know they are ugly pieces of crap that only marginally help with derailleur tension while noticable affecting shift performance. AKA....one of the many POS parts marketed during the MTB boom to fix problems that don't exist.
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    hey guys, settle down. Yeah, it's to minimize chain slap, that's all. Some may think it's just ugly, but chill. I loved these things back in the day. And I liked it on this build, so shut yo noisy flaps!
    It's by no means my main steed in the stable, just a 650b vintage build I had fun with some parts I have laying around!
    The old faded red SDG saddle I threw on is ugly too, but I like it! And I kind of think the 150mm stem is ugly too, but ugly to a point that it almost matches the build with the sweep bars... UGLY is a relative term! ...this is just exactly what happens when someone posts up photos of an oddball retro-grouch build with obscure vintage parts (from might I say, the golden era in MTB's short history! ), and then other people only concerned with newest, latest, greatest, most technologically exotic, all first lay eyes on some real history; they are repulsed and shocked!
    If you all expected to see some 2013 Ferrari's at a car show, then a hot-rodded straight axle gasser shoebox shows up, most people just simply won't get it.

    And yes, it helps being that it's a 1x8 (the tension is almost too much on the spring for a triple), but I also threw on a Paul chain keeper as a security measure from launching the chain in rough sections.
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    Man, all that Ibis needs is a Hite-Rite and you'd be all set! Too bad the tires wouldn't clear the rigid fork. Is that a Surly Open bar on there? I've got one on a Ritchey TimberWolf that I use as a grocery getter/winter commuter and I love it. I've always wanted to take the racks and fenders off it and throw on some knobbies and go trail-riding early '90's style.

    Very cool that 650B's fit on your vintage frame. Let us know how she rides with her new wheels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BikeSATORI View Post
    And I kind of think the 150mm stem is ugly too, but ugly to a point that it almost matches the build with the sweep bars... UGLY is a relative term!
    Going to have to disagree with you on that one....that stem is beautiful! Hand made stem from back in the day when a stem could please a woman...hand painted to match the hand made frame. I love it!
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    650B Picture Thread-img_20130307_212857_907.jpgHere she is!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pedalmunky View Post
    Man, all that Ibis needs is a Hite-Rite and you'd be all set! Too bad the tires wouldn't clear the rigid fork. Is that a Surly Open bar on there? I've got one on a Ritchey TimberWolf that I use as a grocery getter/winter commuter and I love it. I've always wanted to take the racks and fenders off it and throw on some knobbies and go trail-riding early '90's style.

    Very cool that 650B's fit on your vintage frame. Let us know how she rides with her new wheels.
    oh definitely! I actually have some sitting around, but was going to save for a different build. The seatpost clamp I currently have on there right now is bolt-on anyway...



    Quote Originally Posted by apat13 View Post
    Going to have to disagree with you on that one....that stem is beautiful! Hand made stem from back in the day when a stem could please a woman...hand painted to match the hand made frame. I love it!

    haha, yeah, that's exactly why it is still on there! Matches the bike perfectly so I cannot seperate them, even if I am superman stretched over the front wheel, haha. Mainly the reason I went with the big pullback sweep bars.
    Oh, and yes, they are Surly Open bars, just blacked out to look more generic.
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    I decided to finally post these up in the thread. A 2012 Santa Cruz Blur TRc and a 2012 One One Whippet. Oddly enough they both weigh in at 22.6lbs. I'm not sure if that means the TRc is light, or the Whippet is heavy.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ljsmith View Post
    I decided to finally post these up in the thread. A 2012 Santa Cruz Blur TRc and a 2012 One One Whippet. Oddly enough they both weigh in at 22.6lbs. I'm not sure if that means the TRc is light, or the Whippet is heavy.




    Nice!!

    Just my humble opinion because I've got an affinity to On One and hardtails but the Whippet is a straight beast (as we used to say in the 'hood).
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    I'd say yes to both! Take away the CC TB (I have one) weight and they'll both appear all the better! Really nice setups lj!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratman View Post
    Nice!!

    Just my humble opinion because I've got an affinity to On One and hardtails but the Whippet is a straight beast (as we used to say in the 'hood).
    The Whippet is my favorite bike. It can't handle the terrain that the TRc can, but it is so stiff and fast and is just a blast to ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMac47 View Post
    I'd say yes to both! Take away the CC TB (I have one) weight and they'll both appear all the better! Really nice setups lj!
    At heart I am a hard tail guy, but I am getting older and my lower back needs the Thudbuster! It does weigh a ton though.
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    Daaaang. That TRc is f'n light! Nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ljsmith View Post
    At heart I am a hard tail guy, but I am getting older and my lower back needs the Thudbuster! It does weigh a ton though.
    Yeah I hear yah on the back that's why I have one! Didn't mean to literally take it off just the theoretical "weight off the weight" you posted for the Whippet, yah know? I use one on my longer distance ride HT bike. Have a Moots layback Ti on the SS ht so it takes the edge off of those 2-4 hour rides. But all my bikes are 27.2 seat tubes so I can move the whole seat/seatpost setup around accordingly.

    I do have a question on your chain hanger guide on the SC, is that one off a Specialized bike?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMac47 View Post

    I do have a question on your chain hanger guide on the SC, is that one off a Specialized bike?
    It is a bionicon chainguide c.guide. A lot of people comment that it must add a lot of drag, but it doesn't. Mainly because that part of the chain isn't really under much tension. I have used a Shadow plus derailleur, and this works way better at controlling chain movement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ljsmith View Post
    It is a bionicon chainguide c.guide. A lot of people comment that it must add a lot of drag, but it doesn't. Mainly because that part of the chain isn't really under much tension. I have used a Shadow plus derailleur, and this works way better at controlling chain movement.
    Interesting. I was thinking about getting one of the clutch rr der for my El Bastardo to help with slap but I'm running 9spd. I will look into that device. My worry about drag is minimal.

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    c guide

    That's interesting, I had a Cguide on my Fuel EX and although it did take a lot of noise out I wasn't impressed, when I swapped over to my XT shadow plus I was then impressed.

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    My 2009 Epic Carbon Comp. There's a build thread on here somewhere but, like any proud owner, I figured I'd pimp it here too. When I bought it, the PO had upgraded to XX. It came with Stan's 355/DT Swiss 240 wheels. I had the hubs built with 650b Flows and swapped the SID to a Revelation 650b. The XX front derailleur didn't clear the rear tire so that got swapped for an SLX. I haven't weighed it recently but I'm guessing it's close to 24lbs or less. Here's a build list:

    2009 Epic Carbon Comp size L
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    Other stuff...

    I came across a set of XT brakes that may go on. I'm planning on swapping the front RR for a Nobby Nick and putting the RR on the rear. It took some time to get the bike sorted but it's phenomenal. I'm 100% pleased. Before and after pics attached.

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