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    2019 vs 2018 Roscoe 8

    How's going everyone. I'm in the market for a new HT and pretty much came to the conclusion. My budget was roughly 1500.

    First I would like all to disregard the rear hub issues, I see it as a non issue. I'm just trailblazing, exploring so the 141 is fine and I know if I want, I can put on 29ers.

    My question, if the budget is 1500 and with the current sale, should I just jump on the 2019 Roscoe 8 or is the 1x12 not worth the $? Other reason I would wait is because I really like the color of the 2019 more over the 2018, though I like both.

    I test rode the 2018 and it felt great.

    Also, only LBS I have are Fuji, Trek, Specialized, Scott, and Santa Cruz. Did I make a good choice with the Roscoe?

    Thanks ALL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squirrel3246 View Post
    How's going everyone. I'm in the market for a new HT and pretty much came to the conclusion. My budget was roughly 1500.

    First I would like all to disregard the rear hub issues, I see it as a non issue. I'm just trailblazing, exploring so the 141 is fine and I know if I want, I can put on 29ers.

    My question, if the budget is 1500 and with the current sale, should I just jump on the 2019 Roscoe 8 or is the 1x12 not worth the $? Other reason I would wait is because I really like the color of the 2019 more over the 2018, though I like both.

    I test rode the 2018 and it felt great.

    Also, only LBS I have are Fuji, Trek, Specialized, Scott, and Santa Cruz. Did I make a good choice with the Roscoe?

    Thanks ALL!
    First, I know you said just ignore it, however... As an owner of a 2018 Roscoe 8, you nailed it right on the head. The 141mm rear hub is a non-issue! Just as an FYI.... I found a set of replacement wheels without issue... Just by choosing a company that uses swapable QR endcaps. So don't let that impact your choice... There are plenty of options when it comes to that.

    Second, I have ridden both the 2019 and 2018 Roscoe 8, and to be honest... If you can afford the extra few bucks... then go for the 2019. The slightly improved fork and NX 12 speed would be nice to have. However, that's just it... They are only "nice to haves" and not that much of a gmae changer!

    But, if the difference in price between the 2018 and 2019 is a stretch for you... Then go for the 2018 and save the difference for some future upgraded of your choosing.

    I honestly could barley tell the difference between the two bikes. The new NX 12 speed is not that far off from the NX 11 speed.
    Unless you have medical issues that would benefit from you having the extra range... I would say the difference in price is not worth it the 50t cog.

    And the differences between the RS Judy silver and gold are mostly asthetics. I could barely tell them apart.

    My suggestion would be... Buy the 2018 Roscoe 8 and wait for an end of season sale on Jenson. Then use the money you saved to upgrade the brakes, wheelset, and fork. Granted to do all that... Will be more then the price difference between the two bikes... however, the new components will be your choice.

    That's what I did... I bought a Fox34 fork, some Shimano Deore M6000 brakes, and a set of Stan's No tubes barons... And the bike came alive!

    The 11speed NX drivetrain was more than enough for me.

    Good luck and let us know what you decide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 20mmrain View Post
    First, I know you said just ignore it, however... As an owner of a 2018 Roscoe 8, you nailed it right on the head. The 141mm rear hub is a non-issue! Just as an FYI.... I found a set of replacement wheels without issue... Just by choosing a company that uses swapable QR endcaps. So don't let that impact your choice... There are plenty of options when it comes to that.

    Second, I have ridden both the 2019 and 2018 Roscoe 8, and to be honest... If you can afford the extra few bucks... then go for the 2019. The slightly improved fork and NX 12 speed would be nice to have. However, that's just it... They are only "nice to haves" and not that much of a gmae changer!

    But, if the difference in price between the 2018 and 2019 is a stretch for you... Then go for the 2018 and save the difference for some future upgraded of your choosing.

    I honestly could barley tell the difference between the two bikes. The new NX 12 speed is not that far off from the NX 11 speed.
    Unless you have medical issues that would benefit from you having the extra range... I would say the difference in price is not worth it the 50t cog.

    And the differences between the RS Judy silver and gold are mostly asthetics. I could barely tell them apart.

    My suggestion would be... Buy the 2018 Roscoe 8 and wait for an end of season sale on Jenson. Then use the money you saved to upgrade the brakes, wheelset, and fork. Granted to do all that... Will be more then the price difference between the two bikes... however, the new components will be your choice.

    That's what I did... I bought a Fox34 fork, some Shimano Deore M6000 brakes, and a set of Stan's No tubes barons... And the bike came alive!

    The 11speed NX drivetrain was more than enough for me.

    Good luck and let us know what you decide.
    Alright cool, thank you for the response. I think would greatly benefit from the 1x12. I had double video assisted thorocoscopic surgery this winter, one on each lung. I'm actually lucky to be here. I own a 3x8, borrowed a 2x10, and think for me personally a 1x12 would be ticket.

    I felt far less over worked as I moved from my drive to the borrowed drive. I was more concerned with the 2019 still being a bang for your buck. I did love the demo of the 2018 hence why I thought just wait, save up the extra 200 and buy the 2019.

    I was planning on in the end of a 1x12 upgrade, that was when I figured I'd just get the 2019. Loving the color a bit more over the bright orange too.

    I hadn't realized the forks were also different either.

    Curious, what site or company is that? Do they already sell 29er wheels on the appropriate hubs? That's the other thing I wanted to do, love the idea of wheel choice with the Roscoe.

    And what would the max tire width of the each size be?

    Thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squirrel3246 View Post
    Alright cool, thank you for the response. I think would greatly benefit from the 1x12. I had double video assisted thorocoscopic surgery this winter, one on each lung. I'm actually lucky to be here. I own a 3x8, borrowed a 2x10, and think for me personally a 1x12 would be ticket.

    I felt far less over worked as I moved from my drive to the borrowed drive. I was more concerned with the 2019 still being a bang for your buck. I did love the demo of the 2018 hence why I thought just wait, save up the extra 200 and buy the 2019.

    I was planning on in the end of a 1x12 upgrade, that was when I figured I'd just get the 2019. Loving the color a bit more over the bright orange too.

    I hadn't realized the forks were also different either.

    Curious, what site or company is that? Do they already sell 29er wheels on the appropriate hubs? That's the other thing I wanted to do, love the idea of wheel choice with the Roscoe.

    And what would the max tire width of the each size be?

    Thank you!
    Well I'm glad to hear you are still here! Sorry to hear about your surgery. In your case I would definitely agree with you that the 2019 Roscoe is the way to go! Just a reminder that the new NX 12 speed does Not have a 500% gear range like the GX or XO versions do. It's because it uses standard Shimano hub body and the cassette does not have a 10t cog. But it does have the 50t cog, which sounds like you will benefit from.

    Yes the forks are different... The 2018 has the silver version of the Judy and the 2019 has the gold version. I can't remember the exact differences (except I remember the gold has black stantions, which looks way better!). I also think it has a better negative chamber but don't quote me on that.

    As for the wheels... Go to Stan's No tubes website. Look for the Baron S1's or Baron MK3's depending on your price range.

    Wheelset...(note link in blank spot below)
    https://www.notubes.com/baron-s1-wheelset

    End cap converstion to 141mm...
    (note it says 135mm but it will work for 148 to 141 as well.)
    (note link in blank spot below)
    https://www.notubes.com/kit-neo-end-...r-10x135-qr-cl

    There are many other wheelsets out there besides this one that have end caps that will convert 148 to 141.

    As for Max tire size. I would say you could do a small 3.2 safely (depending on the tire) However, I went down from 2.8 to 2.6 because I wanted stronger sidewalls.

    But before I did that I fit 3.0 safely in my bike with room to spare.

    Let me know if you have any other questions bud.
    Last edited by 20mmrain; 1 Week Ago at 04:09 AM.

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