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    2013 Trek Remedy 9.9 18.5" 650b

    mounted back wheel to frame today, 650b fits with equal clearance to my carbine 650b, the XX1 kit will be here tomorrow and pics should be up on Wednesday......Of course it is calling for 5 days of rain starting thursday.........

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    Sounds really sweet. I'll be waiting for the pics and get a BB measurement with the 650B's.

    Really like the concept of the XX1 but not so much the price tag. Trickle down will be good when it happens.
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    good news... can you post a picture of the rear tire gap with a 650.
    what tire do you use?
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    In reverse order....

    Using an Ardent 2.25 on rear for now, the clearance at the bottom bracket is GOOD, it is tighter at the horseshoe at the EVO link, I will post pics thursday.

    I will post the BB measurement, but it should be 13.9 and change with sag......The Remedy is 13.9 unweighted with a .43" drop for sag, according to our friend Morpheous it should increase that by .5", and according to my high school shop class measurement skills the Ardent will give me more like .45" so right back to about 13.9" is the hope......

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    You go Hito! Cant wait to see this build. (and the XX1 is just outright "grandstanding" )
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    Can't wait to see the pics. Are you using the stock 26" Fox Fork that comes on the Remedy? I have been running the numbers to see if I would be happy with the goemetry changes. Very interested in your feedback from test ride. Thanks for being a pioneer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneEyedHito View Post
    In reverse order....

    Using an Ardent 2.25 on rear for now, the clearance at the bottom bracket is GOOD, it is tighter at the horseshoe at the EVO link, I will post pics thursday.

    I will post the BB measurement, but it should be 13.9 and change with sag......The Remedy is 13.9 unweighted with a .43" drop for sag, according to our friend Morpheous it should increase that by .5", and according to my high school shop class measurement skills the Ardent will give me more like .45" so right back to about 13.9" is the hope......
    Thanks Hito. Now when it's ready you really need to hit the trail, beat that rain ..
    Can't wait to see the bult up and your ride report..
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    Quote Originally Posted by KKC View Post
    Can't wait to see the pics. Are you using the stock 26" Fox Fork that comes on the Remedy? I have been running the numbers to see if I would be happy with the goemetry changes. Very interested in your feedback from test ride. Thanks for being a pioneer!
    I have a '13 Fox 36 RC2 stepped down to 150mm and a '13 34 CTD stepped to 150 also, but I am going to run the 36 RC2, ran it on my Carbine for a while, slightly heavier (like a 1/10th of a pound than the 34) but the damping is so much better......Seriously the CTD is so bad. I ran the DRCV 150mm for a few months when I got the bike as a '12 (before crash breakage) and it was ok, but still not an RC2.

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    Thanks Hito. Much anticipation for your future posts on the thread!

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    So......mixed results

    Hasn't taken its maiden voyage yet and I am changing the fork to the 36 RC2 but here it is assembled and with a minimal amount of clearance......the seat stay and bottom bracket clearance is zero issue on this conversion but the support brace by the upper link is an issue.....also picture text is wrong, BB height is 14" dead on from center of spindle to ground.
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    XX1 lust setting in here looking at the pics Still would like a bash option as I'd figure out a way to smack it.

    What do you bet the Remedy goes 650B for 2014? Seems like the ideal candidate in the Trek lineup as well as the Giant Reign and Spec. Enduro. Gonna be interesting for sure.
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    NIce build OEH! We need the rain to stop in GC!
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    nice bike. the ardent is a true 27.5 tire in height. you would have more room with the crossmark or even the vee rubber mission 2.1

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    Hito: Looks like a sweet build. Curious about the XX1. Where did you pick it up and what size is the rear derailleur?

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    XX1 rear Der. is a one size type deal. Doesn't come in different cage lengths. It's a hulking piece of gear but is surprisingly light. Unlike our rain here :/

    BTI has stock on XX1 right now and so does Competitive C. as of a few days ago.

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    Awesome bike! Whats the total weight with the 650b build?

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    27.5 lbs. on the nose!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneEyedHito View Post
    27.5 lbs. on the nose!
    Too funny

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    Phineas!

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    And Ferb

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    This build has to be the current state of the art for Trail/Enduro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidad View Post
    XX1 lust setting in here looking at the pics Still would like a bash option as I'd figure out a way to smack it.

    What do you bet the Remedy goes 650B for 2014? Seems like the ideal candidate in the Trek lineup as well as the Giant Reign and Spec. Enduro. Gonna be interesting for sure.

    I'll bet that if it there is a 650b Remedy in 2014 it will be my next bike.

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    11 miles in (I didn't start the strava for the first few miles).....

    Headed south to Cave Run today to hit up Sheltowee Trace Trail.......1st Time on it and I am so glad I went......really needed the ride plus the trail has some gnarly climbs and bombing descents, icing on the cake is that it Pissed rain the whole way down and it pissed again the whole way home but the sky opened up for our ride

    While the leaves were a soaked mess, this trail is amazingly weatherproof, my friend has been raving about it being the best he has ridden in KY for hard pack limestone that can be ripped in the rain without slippage or damage to the trail, he was RIGHT!

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    The bike is everything I needed it to be and more, the clearance wasn't an issue once, the RC2 upfront is bombproof and the CCDbAIR in the rear was a thing of carpet riding beauty. The 650b's made a couple of 1 mile steep ones so much easier to climb and the XX1 groupset is seriously my new favorite tool EVER!

    Ok enough of me being way overjoyed about todays ride, and yes I feel like a schmuck for feeling like I need to ride in light of the current tragedies and the season so enough from me. Here's to you!
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    That bike is sooo sweet! Nice job!!! Im thinking of getting a 650b wheelset as an alternate just to try it out! Who knows, I might love it & keep em! Also what shock hardware did you use for the DBAir? I have a suctom fit CTD shock on mine but have always wanted to try a DBAir! For what its worth, heres mine! Would look so good with your 650b wheelset mounted up! Dam people like you, get me to spend all my money...
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    Dude what year is that Ninja? That is so sick in matte black!!!!!!!!! That is the only thing I would change about my Remedy and really only thing I liked better about the Carbine.....FN A that is bad ass! I used Enduro bearings that CC told me to get for the top mount and I went to a local Fastenal to get a 10mm bolt and nut based on using calipers on the length needed. The bottom hardware is the OEM hardware that came with the Remedy. I can caliper these two bearings if you need me to, but since yours looks like a different model year, call Eric at Cane Creek. BTW, I tried my wheels in 17.5" and it didn't seem like it would work with any kind of 'real' tire so I was fortunate that I ride the 18.5"...also those XR4's are SICK tires, grip for days and they roll!

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    Thanks! It started as a 2011 9.7, carbon front alloy rear! I purchased the frame used and had a friend that owns a body shop give it a 2k matte paint job! Im using the same Enduro bearing/spacer kit used for the coil conversion! Yea, I love the XR4s! Had them on my NomadC still have some on my Yeti ASR-7 and now this bike!

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    Awesome bike. Thanks for taking us along. What rear tire did you end up going with? I can see it is a Schwalbe in the picture but can't tell size or model. Thanks again.

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    Alright the Wife didn't get me anything for xmas so I'm going into the secret stash to hook up my 2012 R9 E 650b Style! Thanks for posting that bike hooked up! BTW did you experience any issues with the 650b setup with the fox 32 drcv front fork? Let me know cause there's a sweet deal on an RC2. Cheers!

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    hey hito iam a little late here but i have a 2011 trek9.9..i want to convert to 650b. question i have is what are the rims not fam enough to tell from pic?? also what size tire is up front and is this fork a 26" or a 650b fork??two rims i like are stans ztr crest at 1520g and syntance w35 mx at 1687g...do you think the wide rim at 35mm would lower the height of tire giving me more rear triangle clearance??basically all i want is to buy rims and tires..............thank you bob

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    Rims are Enve 650B carbons and the fork is a Fox 36 with RC2 cartridge.

    I personally can't see the 35mm rim making much of a difference when it comes to clearance.

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    Awesome build, Hito.

    Like rsaulte, I also have a 2011 Remedy 9.9... and I am wondering whether your 2013 remedy seatstay is identical to mine. what tire do you have on the back? 2.35 Nobby Nic? Maybe a 2.25 would have better clearance-- i might be able to live with a 2.2

    Also, echoing a previous question... did that 650b Hans Dampf front tire clear the original 32/150mm DRCV fork, even at full compression? I'd be afraid the wheel would hit the crown at full compression.

    thanks for answering our questions, you are guiding future 650b conversions!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rfxc View Post
    Awesome build, Hito.

    Like rsaulte, I also have a 2011 Remedy 9.9... and I am wondering whether your 2013 remedy seatstay is identical to mine. what tire do you have on the back? 2.35 Nobby Nic? Maybe a 2.25 would have better clearance-- i might be able to live with a 2.2

    Also, echoing a previous question... did that 650b Hans Dampf front tire clear the original 32/150mm DRCV fork, even at full compression? I'd be afraid the wheel would hit the crown at full compression.

    thanks for answering our questions, you are guiding future 650b conversions!!
    Ok so for some reason I haven't been getting the thread email updates on this one and have been busy so haven't checked in, sorry!!!

    As for the 2011 I am pretty sure they are not the same seat stay geo as the 2012 and the 2013.....I would call Trek Support and ask this question.....they aren't going to recommend 650b period so I would limit my question to "Hi, my name is Joe, how is your day going? Quick question on the 2011 Remedy 9.9 vs the 12 & 13, were there any geometry changes from '11 to 12/13 AT THE SEAT STAY?, ok great thanks!"

    As for the stock DRVC 32 150mm I didn't run that fork on this build at all....I tried the Fox 34 27.5 CTD Fork set to 150mm with the float cartridge, and I don't like the CTD forks period....so I am running a '13 36 RC2 Talas with the FLOAT cartridge installed and fork set to 150mm...I have ridden in mud, while mud clearance hasn't been an issue, I do seem to get alot of leaves stuck in the fork arch though and that can be annoying from a noise perspective (but I would never ever ever ever run I9 hubs because of the noise, I like ninjas) so take that observation with a grain of salt.

    I have only been able to put 20 some miles on it in the last month at Cave Run in KY (the S-Tree Swinging Bridge trail a couple of times) but I can say that this bike is everything I could want right now, ha!

    Tires:
    Front 2.35 HD Trailstar (I am replacing with a 2.25 HD Trailstar), the 2.35 HD is really too much tire for what I ride regularly.....So I don't have to explain too much, Schwalbes just rule the world and they are true to size listing unlike alot of others...
    Rear is a 2.25 NN Pacestar....I will continue to run this in the rear it affords me horseshoe clearance that I am comfy with on the Remedy and it pedals really well for me.

    Changed to a Hope 50mm stem which is not shown in pic, and I am replacing these crank brothers Iodine bars....they are misshapen and it is driving me nutzzzzz..

    Sorry I wasn't of any real help!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KKC View Post
    Awesome bike. Thanks for taking us along. What rear tire did you end up going with? I can see it is a Schwalbe in the picture but can't tell size or model. Thanks again.
    Tires:
    Front 2.35 HD Trailstar (I am replacing with a 2.25 HD Trailstar), the 2.35 HD is really too much tire for what I ride regularly.....So I don't have to explain too much, Schwalbes just rule the world and they are true to size listing unlike alot of others...
    Rear is a 2.25 NN Pacestar....I will continue to run this in the rear it affords me horseshoe clearance that I am comfy with on the Remedy and it pedals really well for me.

    Sorry for late reply!
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    Ran into ray from rays mtb park saturday......he had a remedy with 650b wheels on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneEyedHito View Post
    I am running a '13 36 RC2 Talas with the FLOAT cartridge installed and fork set to 150mm
    Sorry to bring up an old thread, but i'm getting a 2013 Remedy frame.

    According to my calcs, your 650b'd Remedy with a 36 150 up front should net a (Low) 66.3*/(High) 66.8* head angle.

    Can you tell a difference from the 67/67.5* HA of the stock Remedy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hokiebrett View Post
    Sorry to bring up an old thread, but i'm getting a 2013 Remedy frame.

    According to my calcs, your 650b'd Remedy with a 36 150 up front should net a (Low) 66.3*/(High) 66.8* head angle.

    Can you tell a difference from the 67/67.5* HA of the stock Remedy?
    Brett - I sold the Remedy a long time ago, I can't say that it made a difference on the climbs at all that I could tell, but I am not much of a climber (I have been known to push to the top a time or two to conserve energy for the trip back down), but I can say that it was awesome coming down!!!

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    Thanks for responding. I'm looking at a full 650b conversion, but am also considering a frankenbike (650 front/26er rear) if the BB ends up too high.

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    Clearance Clarence!

    17.5" Trek Remedy 9.9 frame

    Sun Ringle Charger Pro SL 650b/27.5 wheelset

    Kenda Honey Badger DTC Pro 2.2 650b/27.5 tire fits with room to spare

    Hello (soon to be) 27lb, 6" travel, carbon, 650b, All-Mountain trail slayer!

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    Mounted up a Fox 34 27.5 150 CTD Talas fork today.

    My BB is really high. Really, really high. 14.3-14.4

    For people who have been running 2012-2013 Remedy's 650b'd, can you notice the increase in BB height?

    I was looking at getting an offset bushing for the shock to lower the BB some... but then my head angle will be <66*, which seems too slack.

    My other option is to reduce the travel of the fork to 140mm and run an offset bushing. That should get me around 66* and ~13.9-14" BB height.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hokiebrett View Post
    Clearance Clarence!

    17.5" Trek Remedy 9.9 frame

    Sun Ringle Charger Pro SL 650b/27.5 wheelset

    Kenda Honey Badger DTC Pro 2.2 650b/27.5 tire fits with room to spare

    Hello (soon to be) 27lb, 6" travel, carbon, 650b, All-Mountain trail slayer!

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    Nice! Be sure to let us know how it pans out! I'm doing my 9.9 up in a very similar fashion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hokiebrett View Post
    Mounted up a Fox 34 27.5 150 CTD Talas fork today.

    My BB is really high. Really, really high. 14.3-14.4

    For people who have been running 2012-2013 Remedy's 650b'd, can you notice the increase in BB height?
    Ok. Doing some research, I'm less worried about the static BB height. Trek (where ABP is basically a modified single pivot rear end) uses really low leverage ratios for their rear suspensions. I also noticed that Trek's static BB heights are higher than most of the competition's bikes. I find some geo charts from 2012 where Trek actually listed the BBH at sag for a 2012 Remedy (same frame as my bike).

    While they don't list % sag (assuming 25%), the chart shows that the bike settles (read: bb drops) 3-3.5 cm (1.2-1.4") at sag.

    Long story short: At sag, the BB height of my 650B Remedy 9.9 conversion (with 150mm fork) will be around an 1/8" higher than my 2010 Gary Fisher Roscoe and the 26" 2013 Remedy with the Mino-Link in the "high" (67.5* HA) position.

    If I run a 140mm fork, the BB height will actually be exactly the same as a stock, 26er 2013 Remedy in the 'high' position for the Mino link.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hokiebrett View Post
    Long story short: At sag, the BB height of my 650B Remedy 9.9 conversion (with 150mm fork) will be around an 1/8" higher than my 2010 Gary Fisher Roscoe and the 26" 2013 Remedy with the Mino-Link in the "high" (67.5* HA) position.
    Ok, not sure if anyone cares or is even following this thread... but I figured I'd post some more findings.

    Read the MTBR review about the Orbea Rallon. It has a cocentric rear pivot (like ABP, probably a DW Split Link licensed design) and they specifically call out how the low BB causes them issues. With 170mm cranks nonetheless!

    I'd be a bit scared to have to worry about busting my cranks on a DH section of a trail!

    Another rider had a few issues with pedal strikes through more technical climbing sections due to its rather low 13.3-inch bottom bracket height. Pedal strikes were also a slight issue on downhill sections as well, forcing riders to be mindful of crank angle and pedaling through corners, especially with the rear suspension compressed. It should also be noted that the test bike only had 170mm long cranks, which would make pedal strikes with 175mm cranks even more common.
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    Hokiebrett how are the honey badgers doing on the remedy conversion. I'm doing the same to my 2012 R8 this weekend and would love an update.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonastacio View Post
    Hokiebrett how are the honey badgers doing on the remedy conversion. I'm doing the same to my 2012 R8 this weekend and would love an update.
    From everything I've read, the AL rear end of the R8 should have less of a problem. Most people are reporting that the smaller sized carbon frames are those that have the tightest clearance in the rear.

    The 9.X 18.5 and 19.5 frames seem to have no issues with clearance, where my 17.5" (tried to talk Trek into an 18.5 or 19.5 but they wouldn't budge) is tighter (at the chainstay/BB junction).

    For reference, I tried mounting up a Vee Rubber Speed-R 2.35 27.5 tire. While it fit, I wasn't comfortable with the clearance and put the 2.2 Honey Badger back on. A 2.2 Bonty XR3 would probably work perfect.

    I actually still haven't gotten the bike built yet. I had a hell of a time sorting out the rear, lower suspension bushing. Trek was worthless and Fox couldn't help either. I finally turned to RWC/Enduro for one of their needle bearing kits. It even took tries with them to get something that worked. The good news is that a 35.56 RWC needle bearing with qty: 2 shim kits (they come in pairs, so 4 total 0.5mm shims used) and my frame is up and running.

    I will say, the RWC needle bearing is ridiculously smooth. With bearings on both sides of the DRCV shock mounts, the Full Floater rear end is literally like buttah. I read reports of people having to run higher PSI and rebound settings as the RWC needle bearing put them deeper into their sag.

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    Oh, I forgot to mention. My 17.5 R9.9 frame, with a KHB 2.2, has a touch more clearance than my buddy's Ibis Mojo HD with a Maxxis Ardent 26x2.25 (bone stock set up for a Mojo HD). Luckily, we don't have mud to worry about in Denver, so I'm really not concerned. (And, if it's muddy/sloppy, I'll ride my Giant AX29-2... which has rear end mud clearance for DAYS).

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    Quote Originally Posted by hokiebrett View Post
    The good news is that a 35.56 RWC needle bearing with qty: 2 shim kits (they come in pairs, so 4 total 0.5mm shims used) and my frame is up and running.

    I will say, the RWC needle bearing is ridiculously smooth. With bearings on both sides of the DRCV shock mounts, the Full Floater rear end is literally like buttah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonastacio View Post
    Hokiebrett how are the honey badgers doing on the remedy conversion. I'm doing the same to my 2012 R8 this weekend and would love an update.
    HB's performed great over the weekend in Fruita/GJ.

    See my conversion/build thread that I just started (so I don't hi-jack/blow up this thread anymore).

    http://forums.mtbr.com/27-5-650b/201...l#post11138409

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    Nice R9.9! I own a 9.8 and 9.9 650b coverts myself. Thanks for posting all the updates it sounds like your another happily satisfied Remedy rider.

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