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    2013 Kona Explosif 650b coming

    Anyone hear of Kona's soon to be released 650b Explosif? From what I've heard from a US Retailer, it's going to be based off of the 2012 Kona Steely. A Google search turns up some UK retailers with an image of a 2013 Kona Honzo photoshopped with an Explosif logo. I hope it's based on the Steely like I heard instead of the Honzo. I prefer the burlier build and the clearance of the rear yoke/chainstay. Here's an image taken from one of the retailers...

    Kona, Explosif 650 B 2013 Mountain Bike from only £1,499.00. Free UK Delivery | Wheelies
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    Quote Originally Posted by howard619 View Post
    Anyone hear of Kona's soon to be released 650b Explosif? From what I've heard from a US Retailer, it's going to be based off of the 2012 Kona Steely. A Google search turns up some UK retailers with an image of a 2013 Kona Honzo photoshopped with an Explosif logo. I hope it's based on the Steely like I heard instead of the Honzo. I prefer the burlier build and the clearance of the rear yoke/chainstay. Here's an image taken from one of the retailers...

    Kona, Explosif 650 B 2013 Mountain Bike from only £1,499.00. Free UK Delivery | Wheelies
    OHmygosh!!! My dream hardtail is finally a reality!!!
    I've been wanting a Honzo 650B for the longest time!
    What a totally awesome way for Kona to break into 650B.
    Excellent find! Do keep us up-to-date on this

    edit: that's a Photoshopped 2012 Honzo
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    Quote Originally Posted by r1Gel View Post
    OHmygosh!!! My dream hardtail is finally a reality!!!
    I've been wanting a Honzo 650B for the longest time!
    What a totally awesome way for Kona to break into 650B.
    Excellent find! Do keep us up-to-date on this

    edit: that's a Photoshopped 2012 Honzo
    I share your enthusiasm, but I'm pretty sure it's 2013 Honzo. 2012 is blue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by howard619 View Post
    I share your enthusiasm, but I'm pretty sure it's 2013 Honzo. 2012 is blue.
    Not to split hairs, but they just changed the colour. The 2013 Honzo (gold) has a gusset on the seat tube.
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    The 1993 Explosif will also include 650b wheels, a Hite Rite, and a White Industries Limbo Spider.....

    Oh wait, wrong model year..
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    Quote Originally Posted by phoenixbikes View Post
    The 1993 Explosif will also include 650b wheels, a Hite Rite, and a White Industries Limbo Spider.....

    Oh wait, wrong model year..
    OMG, a Hite Rite in the wild. Had totally forgotten about those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r1Gel View Post
    Not to split hairs, but they just changed the colour. The 2013 Honzo (gold) has a gusset on the seat tube.
    Touche'...I was so caught up on it being a Honzo, the frame differences slipped right by.

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    Kona hasn't had a production 650B bike yet...correct? This Honzo was not 650B so if a 650B comes out in 2013 it will be new for Kona to have 650B?

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    Quote Originally Posted by morkys View Post
    Kona hasn't had a production 650B bike yet...correct? This Honzo was not 650B so if a 650B comes out in 2013 it will be new for Kona to have 650B?
    correct!

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    Quote Originally Posted by howard619 View Post
    Touche'...I was so caught up on it being a Honzo, the frame differences slipped right by.
    No worries mate
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    Specifications...

    Frame Material Kona Cromoly Butted
    Sizes 15", 17", 19", 21"
    Rear Shock N/A
    Fork RockShox Revelation RL 120mm Tapered w/15mm Axle
    Crankarms Sram X7 GXP
    Chainring ?? probably 36t?.
    B/B Sram X7 GXP
    Pedals Shimano M520 Clipless
    Chain Sram Powerchain 1031
    Freewheel Sram Powerglide 1030 11-36t 10spd
    F/D Sram X7
    R/D Sram X9
    Shifters Sram X7
    Brake Calipers Avid Elixir 5
    Front Brake Rotor Avid HS1 180mm
    Rear Brake Rotor Avid HS1 160mm
    Brake Levers Avid Elixir 5
    Headset ZST NO. 10/7B/44
    Handlebar Kona XC/BC Riser
    Stem Kona XC/Road
    Seatpost Kona Double Clamp w/offset
    Seat Clamp Kona Clamp
    Grips Kona Race Light Lock-on
    Saddle WTB Volt Comp
    Front Hub King Kong
    Rear Hub Formula
    Spokes Sanvik Stainless 15g fr/14g rr
    Rims WTB Speed Disc i23
    Front Tire Maxxis Ardent 650B 27.5x2.25"folding
    Rear Tire Maxxis CrossMark 650B 27.5x2.1" folding
    Paint Color Raw Steel with Orange & Black
    Extras N/A

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    Anyone know if it'll come with the sliding dropouts as shown in the pic above? If so, will it be available as a frame only or with a SS build?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveF View Post
    Anyone know if it'll come with the sliding dropouts as shown in the pic above? If so, will it be available as a frame only or with a SS build?
    It will have sliding dropouts.
    No SS build or frame that I heard of.

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    I don't know about the dropouts, but I'm hoping not. I did hear that it will be available as a frame only.

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    Heard back from Kona finally about this bike and here is the info...

    "The Explosif will be available to the US market. It is a late season arrival and we havenít published all of the specs yet. It will be trail geometry though, with a moderately slack head angle and short-ish stays. It will also be available as a frame only."

    Better yet....frame only $500

    Might just be my first HT
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidad View Post
    Heard back from Kona finally about this bike and here is the info...

    "The Explosif will be available to the US market. It is a late season arrival and we havenít published all of the specs yet. It will be trail geometry though, with a moderately slack head angle and short-ish stays. It will also be available as a frame only."

    Better yet....frame only $500

    Might just be my first HT
    Good stuff
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidad View Post
    Heard back from Kona finally about this bike and here is the info...

    "The Explosif will be available to the US market. It is a late season arrival and we havenít published all of the specs yet. It will be trail geometry though, with a moderately slack head angle and short-ish stays. It will also be available as a frame only."

    Better yet....frame only $500

    Might just be my first HT
    Quote Originally Posted by r1Gel View Post
    Good stuff
    Good stuff indeed.

    Kona is killing it!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidad View Post
    Might just be my first HT
    Now I feel old, when I started there wasn't even suspension forks...

    I've booked one, will be coming in march.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidad View Post
    Heard back from Kona finally about this bike and here is the info...

    "The Explosif will be available to the US market. It is a late season arrival and we havenít published all of the specs yet. It will be trail geometry though, with a moderately slack head angle and short-ish stays. It will also be available as a frame only."

    Better yet....frame only $500

    Might just be my first HT
    Any photos from Kona yet? Frame color options?
    Thnx

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    Quote Originally Posted by elrancho66 View Post
    Any photos from Kona yet? Frame color options?
    Thnx
    I'm pumping for more details and color now as I want to pre-order a frame.

    I've got enough spare parts and 650 wheels kicking around that I should be able to build one of these pretty cheaply. Might just be a 9 speed with mechanical brakes but fine with me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallain View Post
    Now I feel old, when I started there wasn't even suspension forks...
    Or disc brakes, reliable shifting, etc. etc.



    Things are good now, and it is hard to find "bad" bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elrancho66 View Post
    Any photos from Kona yet? Frame color options?
    Thnx
    Same colour as the Unit "Raw" with orange logo. Looks really good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by zombinate View Post
    OMG, a Hite Rite in the wild. Had totally forgotten about those.
    I have two, new in the package.

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    Darn. I was hoping it would be like the Explosif from a few years back... Built for 80mm forks and XC geometry. I think it fit 650b as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockhound View Post
    Darn. I was hoping it would be like the Explosif from a few years back... Built for 80mm forks and XC geometry. I think it fit 650b as well.
    Emails I've exchanged with Kona said it will be more xc oriented:

    "We are making a 650B explosiveÖ it is quite a different beast from the Honzo, bit more XC. They are still finalizing some of the frame attrabutes as far as I know. "

    This was on 10/30/12.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carabao View Post
    Emails I've exchanged with Kona said it will be more xc oriented:

    "We are making a 650B explosiveÖ it is quite a different beast from the Honzo, bit more XC. They are still finalizing some of the frame attrabutes as far as I know. "

    This was on 10/30/12.
    Now that's disappointing
    I was hoping for a 650B Steely/Honzo.
    Better to have and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

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    Now here's what I got from Kona recently

    "The Explosif will be available to the US market. It is a late season arrival and we havenít published all of the specs yet. It will be trail geometry though, with a moderately slack head angle and short-ish stays. It will also be available as a frame only."

    Hmmm, I'd be very happy with 68 degrees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by r1Gel View Post
    Now that's disappointing
    I was hoping for a 650B Steely/Honzo.
    +1

    Does that mean that the Jamis Dragon is still the closest thing?

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    Little more info I received today from Kona

    "The frame will be raw steel with a phosphate dip and clearcoat over the top.

    The specs will be similar to the Honzo. Rear wheel has sliders and is 135x10. 44mm headtube drawn around the external lower cup so you can run a tapered fork."


    Sounds good but still would like to see some solid #'s
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidad View Post
    Little more info I received today from Kona

    "The frame will be raw steel with a phosphate dip and clearcoat over the top.

    The specs will be similar to the Honzo. Rear wheel has sliders and is 135x10. 44mm headtube drawn around the external lower cup so you can run a tapered fork."


    Sounds good but still would like to see some solid #'s
    What do "specs" mean, components? carabao's post says "more XC" and yet the specs will be similar to the Honzo?
    The piecemeal relase of info is excruciating!
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    Quote Originally Posted by r1Gel View Post
    What do "specs" mean, components? carabao's post says "more XC" and yet the specs will be similar to the Honzo?
    The piecemeal relase of info is excruciating!
    Yeah, mixed messages going on here and frustrating I don't really care about components as I just want the frame. I would like to see some real geometry #'s and mostly the HA.

    Guess I'll have to ask yet again
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidad View Post
    Now here's what I got from Kona recently

    "The Explosif will be available to the US market. It is a late season arrival and we havenít published all of the specs yet. It will be trail geometry though, with a moderately slack head angle and short-ish stays. It will also be available as a frame only."

    Hmmm, I'd be very happy with 68 degrees.
    A 68-degree head angle sounds good
    As well as a 73-degree seat angle (at least) and 16.3" chain stays
    Better to have and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

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    Bike is on web site now

    More details about the Exlosif 650B

    KONAWORLD

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    Awesome find Skidad No geo numbers yet, but looks like the offspring of a Steely and Honzo. I want!!!

    Looks like it has 2 bottle mounts, substantial HT length (presumably for front triangle stiffness), and a lighter tube set. I wish they went burlier and the Honzo gusset would've been nice.
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    Steely / Explosif comparison pics...
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails 2013 Kona Explosif 650b coming-screen-shot-2012-12-17-7.56.57-am.jpg  

    Last edited by howard619; 12-17-2012 at 08:02 AM. Reason: correction

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    I just put down a deposit on one of these frames at my local shop. I can confirm the $500 frame-only option. The only other bit of info that I got that I hadn't seen mentioned yet is that it has a 31.6 seat tube - same as the honzo. Delivery is expected in March.

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    thanks joshboston. would you happen to know the ETT length on the 17" frame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by joshboston View Post
    I just put down a deposit on one of these frames at my local shop. I can confirm the $500 frame-only option..... Delivery is expected in March.
    Hopefully the bicycle gods will be smiling on me and my LBS will give me similar news when I contact them today. The big appeal here for me besides the steel frame is the 44mm headtube which means I can finally stop avoiding tapered forks.

    I guess my Voodoo Bokor will be going on the auction block really soon....
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    16.5-17.2 stays 12.1bb,73/68,15=22.5,17=23.5,18=24,19=24.5,21=25.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRR View Post
    16.5-17.2 stays 12.1bb,73/68,15=22.5,17=23.5,18=24,19=24.5,21=25.5
    Cool
    How'd you come by those numbers? Do you work for Kona? (pardon my ignorance if you do)
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    Quote Originally Posted by JRR View Post
    16.5-17.2 stays 12.1bb,73/68,15=22.5,17=23.5,18=24,19=24.5,21=25.5
    Nice to see they offer an 18" size....but now I'm not so sure about going 18" or 19". If the 18" hadn't been an option the 19" would be the one for me being 6' tall but I could live with a 24" TT of the 18. 24.5" TT on the 19 I'd probably be using a 50mm stem.

    This would be my first hard tail so any advice welcome.
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    I would go with the longer TT short stem combo. I'm 5'10" and my Steely has a 24" TT. I ride with a 60mm stem and wish my TT was longer so I could ride with a 50mm stem.

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    This looks good, though I'd be just as happy with a Kinda Big Unit if they offered it too. Scandium is real too.
    Great prices - some sweet vintage stuff: http://classifieds.mtbr.com/showprod...product=101010

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    120mm Fork....

    Quote Originally Posted by skidad View Post
    More details about the Exlosif 650B

    KONAWORLD

    Certainly good news, hope it's going to be cleared for 160mm forks.....I mean, ISCG's, 142mm rear. It's just screaming for anything up to 160mm!

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    Looks interesting. Too bad the gap between 19 and 21 is quite big, but you can't have everything.

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    Geometry #'s listed on the web site now

    There is no listing of an 18" size that JRR mentioned above

    Scroll down to bottom of this link

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    Yeah,size 18 must have been to close to 17 and 19 to make prod. The spreadsheet was also titled 650b unit/120fork so the unit when announced could be the same cut with the proper rigid fork

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigcrs View Post
    Certainly good news, hope it's going to be cleared for 160mm forks.....I mean, ISCG's, 142mm rear. It's just screaming for anything up to 160mm!
    Just get a Honzo with a 29" fork. At 140mm BB will be at 12.1", or with 160mm it'll sit at ~12.6". Honzo also has more adjustability in chainstay length allowing you to go as short as 15.3. HT angles will be between 66-67 respectively. Honzo is sick!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by howard619 View Post
    just get a honzo with a 29" fork. At 140mm bb will be at 12.1", or with 160mm it'll sit at ~12.6". honzo also has more adjustability in chainstay length allowing you to go as short as 15.3. ht angles will be between 66-67 respectively. Honzo is sick!!
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    My Explosif frame is on the way, according to an email from my LBS!

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