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    2012 Jamis Dragon 650

    Hey Everyone... We're not officially launching the 2012 line till this weekend but decided to give the 650 followers on here the first chance to see it...







    Reynolds 853
    White Brothers Loop TCR 120mm
    American Classic
    Shimano SLX 3x10
    Avid Elixir 3
    Syncros AM cockpit

    Head Tube Angle = 68
    Seat Tube Angle = 73
    BB Height = 12.5"
    Sizes: 13", 15", 17",19", 21"
    MSRP $2600.

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    Nice. Any chance you will offer a frame only?
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    Oh that's very nice!

    I worked for an L3 Jamis dealer for a while. A good friend of mine has a 29" steel single speed Dragon that's wonderful.

    I will seriously give this bike a very close look. However, I'd put a 100mm Fox on it and probably single speed it.

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    Nice!

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    Well done Sal!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IF52 View Post
    Nice. Any chance you will offer a frame only?
    +1

    that's purdy...

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    Looks nice.

    I am sure some folks would like a frame and fork option?

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    What are the effective top tube lengths? And will there be an aluminum version as well?

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    looove that green i had a feeling it was a 2500.00 ride. will there be a more wallet friendly version?

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    Nice!....

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    i would also like to know if this frame is a new design or just a 26 inch frame with longer rear chainstays to clear the wheel. i do like the new syncros cockpit. it is a very nice looking ride indeed i dig the fresh jamis graphix.

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    After riding around with a 26" dragon on 650b Tires for some time now, I really hope there is a frame only deal.
    For info on Mexico`s Copper Canyon check http://coppercanyongate.blogspot.com

    Carpe Diem

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    And if this is anything like the other Dragons I have handled, the frame finish has glitter in it. It's a great touch.

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    Really nice! Great choice to go 120mm on the fork.

    Very nicely balanced spec too ... Impressed

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    i cant tell is it a 10spd or 9spd? i also wonder maybey a 650b dragon sport?

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    Quote Originally Posted by roscoe1971 View Post
    i cant tell is it a 10spd or 9spd? i also wonder maybey a 650b dragon sport?

    maybe the text has a clue

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    yep im a tard lol how,bout that dragon!

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    Frame only option will be available!

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    When will the full geo specs be posted?

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    GREAT JOB! I've always dug your 853 Hardtails.

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    cool bike

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    Nice bike!
    Now I'll have to figure out which bike or bikes to sell to get my hands on this one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sal@jamis View Post
    frame only option will be available!
    msrp?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sal@jamis View Post
    frame only option will be available!
    sign me up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by roscoe1971 View Post
    i would also like to know if this frame is a new design or just a 26 inch frame with longer rear chainstays to clear the wheel. i do like the new syncros cockpit. it is a very nice looking ride indeed i dig the fresh jamis graphix.
    68/73 angles = not the same ol', same ol'. Aside from the component fitment numbers (BB shell width, 135mm rear axle, etc), and aside from the double diamond shape, it's got nothing in common with a 26" wheel frame. What similarities are you concerned about, if I might ask?

    I'd say 9.5/10, with the only knock being cable routing (prefer under the top tube); tapered, schmapered.
    Looks fantastic, and I look forward to seeing one in person.

    Viva la B!
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    Me likey!
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    Wow, I really like the bike. I'd have to find something to SS the frame, but it wouldn't be too hard.

    Glad the new Jamis line up is targeting the steel hardtail crowd. Wish I had the scratch...

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    http://www.bikerumor.com/2011/07/20/...ls/#more-33472

    Reynolds 853 and 68° head angle. Superb numbers.
    Last edited by gvs_nz; 07-24-2011 at 02:28 AM.

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    does a 650 mean no more 29 dragons?

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    very nice looking. Good job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by toddwmac View Post
    does a 650 mean no more 29 dragons?
    Rob here with Jamis, We will have 29" wheel Dragon's, and the Dragon one has been re-designed to feature Reynolds 853 pipes and slider drop outs. I'm sure we will have an official pic to post shortly.
    RVV

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddwmac View Post
    does a 650 mean no more 29 dragons?
    This post may make DC's head exploded.

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    I have been thinking about getting a 29er, but now that I have seen these!!!! When will they be on the website?

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    any idea on the msrp of the frame only???

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    Dragon 650B

    Quote Originally Posted by ira4ever76 View Post
    any idea on the msrp of the frame only???
    $900 with head set.

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    sweet! sold! lol

    thanks,

    John

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    I just recently moved to Bend, OR from SoCal, and have fallen in love with the MTB life. Its a newer hobby but lovin it. I have a 2005 Jamis Dakar Sport, and it had been riddin very mildly by my pops until I acquired it. Now Im pretty much replacing everything except the shifters and derailers piece by piece. So my question is, assuming you know Jamis bikes. I really like the bike, but figure I will be moving on to something newer next year. I am learning alot about 29's and now 650B. I want to get a Jamis 650B, would you suggest doing a build? Or buying a complete? And would my existing (recently purchased) parts, besides the tires be worthy of moving over to a build? Any feedback would be cool.

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    Looks nice. I reckon w a 100 mm fork the head angle would be 70 degrees?

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    i downloaded the jamis cataloge and the 650b dragon has a top tube length of only 25.1 and the standover is 34.25? am i miss reading that? or could it be a miss print? man im 6'3 with a 34 inch inseam and ive got long arms and a med. long torso if those numbers are right im thinkin that bike is gonna perch me way on top of the bike. do i need to be corrected on this?

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    650b Dragon

    I WANT!!! Jeremy, would ya mind saving me a place in queue?


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    sign me up!

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    how does the HA on a 26" bike compare to the HA on a 650B or 29" ?
    (does the 68 degreeeHA on this dreambike equal the handling of a 26" bike with a 68 HA ?)

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    What tires will be spec'd on the bike? The 2012 Catalog states the Nevegal on the blown-up image and description, then in the detailed spec the WTB Wolverine is listed.
    BTW: 425mm CS!! NICE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal@Jamis View Post
    Frame only option will be available!
    that is great! I want one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cracked Headtube View Post
    What tires will be spec'd on the bike? The 2012 Catalog states the Nevegal on the blown-up image and description, then in the detailed spec the WTB Wolverine is listed.
    BTW: 425mm CS!! NICE

    425mm = really nice!

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    Nice looking bike... I love Jamis steel hardtails! I wish there were more out there.

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    I'd like an answer to these too...

    Looks nice. I reckon with a 100 mm fork the head angle would be 70 degrees?
    how does the HA on a 26" bike compare to the HA on a 650B or 29" ?
    (does the 68 degreeeHA on this dreambike equal the handling of a 26" bike with a 68 HA ?)
    I'd like an answer to these too. As since when did the Dragon become a Trail bike vs. the last of the all steel framed XC racing hold outs?
    I might be missing something as I'm not a bike engineer.

    Is this 68° head angle just a way to make the 650b size workout best?
    If so why does the Jamis Nemesis get a 71° head angle, or is it just that the Nemesis comes with the 100mm fork vs. the Dragons 120mm fork?

    Now riddle me this...If the fork is the only difference to the true frame angles..then could I run a 100mm travel fork will I get quick XC type steering...
    that is... if I don't like the handling at 68° with the 120mm fork?

    But..both bikes are listed with 73° seat tube angles so won't dropping the front also change that angle?

    Just why is the Dragon...The Dragon..., not a Durango.. why is it done like this?

    Sorry guys, I haven't posted in some time to any of the forums, but this got me to thinkin' new bike.

    Hope this came across as excited questioning rather than a rant
    Last edited by Johnny_Cyclone; 09-09-2011 at 02:20 PM.

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    yes dropping the fork travel will change both seat and head tube angles. 20mm roughly equals 1 degree. should also drop your BB height by some amount, so keep that in mind

    I don't have anything with a longer travel fork, but I imagine slacker for longer travel so you don't go overly steep on compression?
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    It costs essentially the same as the Dragon 29er Race, but it appears to have a lower component spec. The 29er Race is a nice bike for the price, this one not as much.

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    New review from Dirt Demo by Dirt Rag....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabrabu View Post
    It costs essentially the same as the Dragon 29er Race, but it appears to have a lower component spec. The 29er Race is a nice bike for the price, this one not as much.
    Well, the driveline spec looks to be one step down pricepoint wise, but the fork is a step or two higher. Maybe that's got something to dowith it?
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