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    120mm travel FS

    looking for a full susspension that is agile but can still take a beating. i would like to stick with trek. the fuel would be prefect if it came in 27.5 and the remedy might be to much. i will spend 2500$ +/-

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    What about Ventana Alpino?

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    Rocky Mountain Thunderbolt or Santa Cruz Solo (5010) looks to be 2 really good offerings with around 5 inches of travel and 27.5. I love the geo and look of both, but would probably go with the Santa cruz for the slightly increased travel.

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    Santa Cruz 5010 has 125mm of travel. Complete bikes start at $3200 but it might be worth the budget stretch.

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    Santa Cruz also has the Bantam too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DYI01 View Post
    Santa Cruz also has the Bantam too.

    Norco fluid 7.1 is rarely mentioned, but compares well on paper. Fluid has shorter chain stays I believe.

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    Yeah....Fluid looks interesting. Wonder how that Norco suspension system climbs? If it's not bad, it's one I'd consider for sure. Bang for the buck seems really good.

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    how about a fuel ex 26er with some 2.3" tires?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptkevin View Post
    Yeah....Fluid looks interesting. Wonder how that Norco suspension system climbs? If it's not bad, it's one I'd consider for sure. Bang for the buck seems really good.
    I just purchased a 2014 Norco Sight and am waiting for the custom build to be done. I thought the suspension climbed well enough to be worth my money. It's like the Specialized Horst-Link, only better. They moved the pivots for better something or other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvanWilliams1783 View Post
    looking for a full susspension that is agile but can still take a beating. i would like to stick with trek. the fuel would be prefect if it came in 27.5 and the remedy might be to much. i will spend 2500$ +/-
    You want to stick with Trek so isn't the Fuel EX your only option, or are you open to other brands? Several ~5" 29ers and 27.5ers coming out for 2014...

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    A giant anthem 27.5 with a swap to a 120mm fork
    Hardrock 29er, Niner EMD9, Cannondale F29, Camber Expert, 650b Nickel all gone.
    2014 Giant Anthem 27.5 here.

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    You should consider the Santa Cruz 5010 (Solo).
    They call it 125mm rear and 130 front. I have yet to measure more than 110 of movement up front.
    I would say that this is a very capable racing bike with the right build- suitable for anyone but the "world cup" hardtail type rider.
    I have mine down to about 23 pounds with Stans rims- probably could get closer to 22 pounds with carbon wheels and lighter tires.
    Suspension is not too active (though it is active)- this bike can climb as fast as the rider-

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvanWilliams1783 View Post
    looking for a full susspension that is agile but can still take a beating. i would like to stick with trek. the fuel would be prefect if it came in 27.5 and the remedy might be to much. i will spend 2500$ +/-
    I wish too that Trek would make a 650B Fuel EX
    Better to have and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

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    According to my local dealer who is one of the largest in the SE, the fuel is indeed coming out as a 27.5. I was looking at the Remedy this week and he said the fuel 27.5 will be released this December.

    FWIW every single person that came in the store is asking about the 650b's. They also deal Santa Cruz and can't keep the Solo's in stock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atl-Biker View Post
    According to my local dealer who is one of the largest in the SE, the fuel is indeed coming out as a 27.5. I was looking at the Remedy this week and he said the fuel 27.5 will be released this December.

    FWIW every single person that came in the store is asking about the 650b's. They also deal Santa Cruz and can't keep the Solo's in stock.
    Awesome! Thanks for the info
    Better to have and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

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    glad i held off on getting the remedy or 29er fuel

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    I spent several hours over the last 2 days on a demo Santa Cruz 5010c (formerly Solo) and I have to say it climbs incredibly well, rolled over large rocks and everything else in site on a technical uphill I couldn't do on my 26" Stumpjumper. The VPP suspension worked great and it descends well. That said, the most travel I got from it was 115mm, even after letting a little air out and hitting big, the claimed travel on the fork is 130mm. The bottom bracket is fairly low (13.0" measured) and I did have problems with pedal strikes (175mm crankarms) to the point I really needed to pay attention to timing my pedal strokes over obstacles, my Stumpjumper is 13.5" BB height and I don't have any problems. Switching the Fox CTD shock into 'climb' mode helps slightly, but the issue was still noticeable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbiker4life View Post
    What about Ventana Alpino?
    Just make sure the wheel doesn't hit the seat tube on full compression...

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    "According to my local dealer who is one of the largest in the SE, the fuel is indeed coming out as a 27.5. I was looking at the Remedy this week and he said the fuel 27.5 will be released this December."

    Bring on the 4-5 inch travel racey 27.5ers

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    I was striking pedals a bit too- don't know if it was the low bb or the fact that I could pedal in more situations.
    Maybe someof both?

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    Probably some of both, although even with a 10mm bottom bracket drop I would think a27.5 BB should be approx13.5 inches from ground since the wheel center was at 14" from ground...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atl-Biker View Post
    According to my local dealer who is one of the largest in the SE, the fuel is indeed coming out as a 27.5. I was looking at the Remedy this week and he said the fuel 27.5 will be released this December.

    FWIW every single person that came in the store is asking about the 650b's. They also deal Santa Cruz and can't keep the Solo's in stock.
    BTW, was there any mention what travel the Fuel EX would have? Likely 120mm eh? (Considering they reduced the travel on the Remedy from 150 to 140 when it became 650B)
    Better to have and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bootsie_cat View Post
    You should consider the Santa Cruz 5010 (Solo).
    They call it 125mm rear and 130 front. I have yet to measure more than 110 of movement up front.
    I would say that this is a very capable racing bike with the right build- suitable for anyone but the "world cup" hardtail type rider.
    I have mine down to about 23 pounds with Stans rims- probably could get closer to 22 pounds with carbon wheels and lighter tires.
    Suspension is not too active (though it is active)- this bike can climb as fast as the rider-
    23 lbs...impressive. What other components did you go with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by reformed roadie View Post
    Just make sure the wheel doesn't hit the seat tube on full compression...
    The tires doesn't hit the seat tube on the XL Alpino that I am selling........checked it. I wish Ventana would publish the findings......because it can't be good for business with so many good 650B offerings.

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    How about the2014 Fezzari Alta Peak? Its 140mm travel and appears to have a good kit spec (sramX7). Its not a very sophisticated rear susp. setup, but looks like it may be good. I am not seeing alot of reviews on that particular model (lowest), but the price is great ($1950). You could use the extra to upgrade wheels/cockpit/add dropper/whatevr....I have not owned a FS bike, so I dont know how to compare it to other brands/susp. setups.
    I love 'Murica!

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    Quote Originally Posted by r1Gel View Post
    BTW, was there any mention what travel the Fuel EX would have? Likely 120mm eh? (Considering they reduced the travel on the Remedy from 150 to 140 when it became 650B)
    I asked that question and he said 130. He did say he wasn't sure or not if they changed it so it was just a guess.

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    Here's another possible:

    ONETWENTY650


    Awesome bike! There are now a few European reviews, so Google is your friend. PYGA also have a Facebook page that has more info, as well as a sneak look at their 140mm 650/27.5, to be released soon, apparently.

    It's not for me to evangelise, so have a look at the reviews. If you would like to know from an owner/rider perspective, this was the email I sent to the UK's importer this last May, after about 3 week's of riding it. Seven month's later, following a trip to the French Alps and a goodly amount of UK based XC riding, I'm finding it difficult to put it away for the winter and start riding my winter HT - which is a Hummer… Love it!

    Email starts: To all at R53 Sport and Pyga Industries, thank you so much for a great bike! I'm now 2 weeks into riding my gorgeous OneTwenty 650B and it just feels better and better each time I ride. Went out on Saturday with my riding buddy of the last 20years, who commented that I was riding the bike as though I had been with it for years.

    Truly outstanding handling and directional control at high and low speeds and it really does climb with the same ease as my previous SC Superlight. The bike rides light, it's nimble and yet stable and planted; responding to a deftness of touch that I would have expected on a bike with steeper geometry.

    I am also very taken with the way it accelerates! On the flat and especially down, it picks up speed effortlessly with the first pedal stroke; an attribute I was not expecting, given the 650B wheels.

    The addition of the ICE dropper post has also shocked me in a very good way! Having not used one before, I'm loving the way the character of the bike changes into a faster, more fun and eminently chuckable machine! I'm not one for 'air', however, I'm now looking for as many lips and drops I can find on the down's! Coupled with the Monarch RT3 rear shock, which has been very easy to set up, the bike feels unshakeable.

    Given that this was a purchase made with no demo, but with a gut intuition and backed up by Patrick Morewood's reputation, it did feel a bit of a risk. I am delighted to say that on my first ride and every ride since, this feeling has been dispelled many times over. I'm a very happy and chuffed chap! Email ends.


    I have mentioned in another thread that I was also looking at the 100mm Morewood, both bikes designed by the same guy. Whether there is a US importer/distributor I don't know, maybe they're looking for one?

    I hope this helps

    Happy trails
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