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    $4000 - $6000 Trail /AM rig ?

    So if you had the money - I know not everyone does or would spend it, but..., I'm looking for those that plan on spending, what would be on you short, or waiting for list?

    In the market for a new one for the stable... Been saving the pennies for just such a time and that time is now. This 650b is very appealing, so I'm gonna buy, and buy once (well maybe not just one, but for now). Been looking into Ventana (Alpino or Zeus), and really liking them. Turner, GT, Rocky Mountain.... What say you and why?

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    Read every thread on this forum in the last year, and the answer will reveal itself!
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    And then we eat them."

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    $4000 - $6000 Trail /AM rig ?

    Ibis HDR. Should be sitting on mine early August, can't wait!

    Wasn't sure if this was on your radar but of not you should check it out.

    Where/what kind of terrain do you ride? What characteristics are you looking for? Are you looking for something totally different than what you have had before? What is your riding style?Always interested in hearing the unique things that get people excited to ride. Maybe we can help steer you in the right direction after hearing your story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by conekilr View Post
    Ibis HDR. Should be sitting on mine early August, can't wait!

    Wasn't sure if this was on your radar but of not you should check it out.

    Where/what kind of terrain do you ride? What characteristics are you looking for? Are you looking for something totally different than what you have had before? What is your riding style?Always interested in hearing the unique things that get people excited to ride. Maybe we can help steer you in the right direction after hearing your story.
    This will be my first FS. Terrain is flow tracks, to climbs, to mid rock gardens / stumps. Riding style has been changed this year, I'm faster, and more aggressive, less brake, more rear slide.

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    Flux: if you want to go very aggressive I'd say Foes F-275. If you want something with most of the F-275s aggressive ability and some of the intended XC ability of the Flux try the Intense Tracer 275, thats what I'm riding.

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    DW LINK : 1. Ibis Mojo HDR 650b 2. Turner Burner 3. Pivot Mach 6 Carbon 650b

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddietzz View Post
    So if you had the money - I know not everyone does or would spend it, but..., I'm looking for those that plan on spending, what would be on you short, or waiting for list?

    In the market for a new one for the stable... Been saving the pennies for just such a time and that time is now. This 650b is very appealing, so I'm gonna buy, and buy once (well maybe not just one, but for now). Been looking into Ventana (Alpino or Zeus), and really liking them. Turner, GT, Rocky Mountain.... What say you and why?
    If you're looking for a fun trail bike that's just a blast to ride, check out the Solo Carbon...
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    Mojo hdr

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    Santa Cruz Bronson - I have one and love it
    Ibis Mojo HDR - havent ridden one but read great reviews
    Rocky Mountain Altitude Rally Edition - looks awesome and if it rides anything like the previous altitude will be a great bike

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    SC Bronson
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    Bronson or Solo

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    Bronson if you want to have a Really capable trail bike that can handle AM riding really well.

    Or my favorite, the new Kona Process if you want a really capable AM bike that can handle trail riding well. That is goning to be my next bike.

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    $4000 - $6000 Trail /AM rig ?

    Bronson or 650b heckler.

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    Rocky Mountain Altitude.
    I really like mine for XC as well as light DH.

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    Pretty much anything available in that range is going to be absolutely excellent. It boils down to your own preferences, body type, riding style, etc. All of the above opinions are great options, but don't mean a thing if the bike doesn't 'click' for you, and there are many variables as to why one will or won't, of course.
    Demo early, and Demo often!

    Where do you live, maybe the collective here can find you some 'local' demo opportunities.
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    Yeah definately find demos. I have to drive pretty far for demos but it will be worth it, not about to put that much money into something that doesnt "click" with me.

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    Looks Like giants has some nice ones coming up, Might want to check out some of those..

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    Longer travel: SC Bronson or Pivot Mach 6
    Shorter travel: SC Solo or Ibis HDR

    Waiting to see: Devinci Troy
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    Thanks for all the input... Looking at the Ibis, doing a frame up build (I think)

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    Santa Cruz Solo carbon, or a Specialized Enduro.

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    Re: $4000 - $6000 Trail /AM rig ?

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    Wait for Transition to bring out 650b. The Carbon Covert is amazing and the Carbon Covert + 650b would be the bee's knees.

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    I recently ordered Ibis HDR (650b) XT; hasn't arrived yet (hopefully within next 7-10 days). I currently ride a hard-tail and STRONGLY considered ordering a Ventana as part of my search. Try to ride as many as you can as everyone's "feel" for what works is personal. Best wishes, happy trials.

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    Banshee Spitfire V2 650b. I was lucky enough to test ride mine at a local shop. Best fit for me ever!

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    Currently have a Carbine 27.5 but ordered the Pivot Mack 6.having owned seven Intense and three Santa Cruz time to move onto the DW link IMO much improved over VVP after spending some time on a Mach 5.7 it completely blew my mind how damn good it is in just about everything I threw at it,from small bump,square hits butter!,turns and can push into corners with aplomb,feels more efficient on tech climbs with very little skittishness.

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    I'd buy a $1500 Blur LTc frame from Santa Cruz's online sale and build up a kick-ass 26lb, 150mm travel 650B trail machine for about $3500. Then I'd take the extra couple grand to go on some amazing mountain bike vacations.

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    Ventana and Ibis are both excellent companies, pick whether you want carbon or aluminum.

    The HDR does offer the ability to go back to 26" if you end not liking the 650b wheel size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seleniak View Post
    Longer travel: SC Bronson or Pivot Mach 6
    Shorter travel: SC Solo or Ibis HDR
    not exactly right. HDR is actually competitor for both solo and bronson. in fact in long travel mode it has tad more travel than bronson. tha fact that it could be set-up with 26" wheels, 650b wheels or 26"rear/650b front, in two travel modes, definitely makes it top choice. add dw link and outstanding ibis customer service and you have winner.

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    Not sure why people like the Mojo? It pedals ok but has old geo and feels really tall. My buddy has one in 650b flavor and its feels like the HD 26 I had. After riding my new 650b Rune he is selling his HDR to get the Runes lil brother, the Spitfire. Loving the low slack geo of my Rune. This bike climbs well for a 6" travel bike and is super fast on the flats. I was thinking a Bronson but had a carbon Nomad and did not care for VPP much. Pic whore...

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    $4000 - $6000 Trail /AM rig ?

    Two bikes not mentioned so far: I have not ridden, but have heard good things, both 140mm: Norco Sight Killer B, Turner Burner.

    Also don't rule out Jamis and KHS, not brands with much cache, but they were into 27.5" first and deserve a look.
    Old enough to know better. And old enough not to care. Best age to be.

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    Sorry to disappoint but... I'm just not convinced on what's currently out there. Gonna hold off right now, but I wanted an FS, found a great deal on a Stumpy FSR, doing a few upgrades. I'm going to keep a close eye on what comes out in the next year or so. Thanks for all your suggestions!

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    mmm kay, thought the time was right?

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    Lots of good bikes mentioned so far.I just ordered a black market roam myself.

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    im eager to read reviews of the Norco Sight Carbon after it comes out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brankulo View Post
    not exactly right. HDR is actually competitor for both solo and bronson. in fact in long travel mode it has tad more travel than bronson. tha fact that it could be set-up with 26" wheels, 650b wheels or 26"rear/650b front, in two travel modes, definitely makes it top choice. add dw link and outstanding ibis customer service and you have winner.
    I pretty sure the Bronson has more travel in the rear in long travel full 650b mode. I am still waiting to hear for sure what rear travel on the HDR will be with a 650b wheel and shock shim. At first they said 150mm, then 140mm and then 147mm. Can anyone give a definitive answer?

    This is one of the reasons I got the Bronson 150 f+r, no funny math or shock shimming. The 130mm HDR is nice but not the bike I wanted.

    The RM Altitude is a nifty bike with that chip and custom geometry. I test rode one around a parking lot. I did not like it nearly as much as my Bronson. BikeMag did a video review on it, I think they hit the nail on the head. I thought the 16.5 M frame would have been a perfect fit as my 17" GT felt a hair too long. However the 17" Bronson felt just right from the start.

    Plus with the RM I had the shop owner talking my ear off and doing everytihng he could to prove to me I knew nothing about bikes and that this was the bike for me despite the fact I did not like the way it felt.

    The Burner felt great but just not enough travel in the rear, plus no carbon frame yet. Found a smoking too good to resisit deal on it with full kashima and xt but I just could not live with that raw aluminum finish.

    As for the Bronson the thing climbs like a ever so slightly chubby mountian goat (compared to the light weight climbers) and descends like a speed hungry fiend. The only area where it starts to falter are very steep inclines like 18-25 degree inclines. The rear looses grip and the front starts to wander. Though this can be said of almost any long travel AM bike in those coditions.

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    Scott genius 720 great bike!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMjunky View Post
    I pretty sure the Bronson has more travel in the rear in long travel full 650b mode. I am still waiting to hear for sure what rear travel on the HDR will be with a 650b wheel and shock shim. At first they said 150mm, then 140mm and then 147mm. Can anyone give a definitive answer?
    bikeco does conversion that has 147mm travel with roco shock. they keep it rather conservative to avoid any clearance issue. otherwise you can have little more over 150mm depending on tire size you run. bikeco does not shim the shock. they will set you up with roco tuned for your needs. i actually just ordered that shock from them to replace my shimmed rp23. so yeah if you comparing it to conversion that bike co does, bronson has 3mm more travel.

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    Re: $4000 - $6000 Trail /AM rig ?

    Quote Originally Posted by brankulo View Post
    bikeco does conversion that has 147mm travel with roco shock. they keep it rather conservative to avoid any clearance issue. otherwise you can have little more over 150mm depending on tire size you run. bikeco does not shim the shock. they will set you up with roco tuned for your needs. i actually just ordered that shock from them to replace my shimmed rp23. so yeah if you comparing it to conversion that bike co does, bronson has 3mm more travel.
    HDR is a nice bike, but at 130 a bit heavy and at "147" is not ready out of the box... Nice versatility with compromises...
    If I was buying a 650b 6" dw bike, I would probably look more into Pivot Mach 6.

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    Or the new giants trance 650b sx look awesome!!!

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    Pickings are slim. Why bother? Cube Stereo is one of the few that interests me, but its durability concerns me. I'd rather wait for something from Yeti, and they already have 2 great options in 26/29.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stephanmoll View Post
    Scott genius 720 great bike!!!
    Yea yea! Loving my Genius 720, recently set it up as 1x10. Super burly frame so I'm not too worried about breaking my 4th bike in 5 years! Can't wait to get up to The Pisgah in a month. NC goood times in Asheville!

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