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    Why not 650A instead of 650B?

    This would be pretty much right in the middle and I think would
    have been a better size.

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    No fuss with the MUSS

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    Quote Originally Posted by peabody View Post
    This would be pretty much right in the middle and I think would
    have been a better size.



    "Killer A" just doesn't have the same ring to it.

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    Most don't even know what 650b is anyway. It's called 27.5 now so people know it's in between size.

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    There are actually good 650a rims out there; if someone made a couple of mountain bike tires you could retrofit 650b frames very easily. It would probably annoy people who are opposed to such things, as we have seen with 650b, but I think it would be fun to try it anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty $anchez View Post
    "Killer A" just doesn't have the same ring to it.

    Yeah. Besides, that's pretty much owned by "f*cking A."
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    I am sorry to post in this dump and will most probably regret it. Maybe the OP will benefit from it? Or maybe I just do not get this thread right? Teach me...is it ''A'' who texted this?

    What is the reason for this useless thread? A or B? really?

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    Caution;  Merge;  Workers Ahead! 650A is the new MTB size.

    I have had my ear to the ground and the word is that a few of the Big MTB make's are testing 650A and it look's like there will be some coming out for 2015.

    No No just stick to one size and love it

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    The OP and DC should be put in the octagon and forced to fight to the death. Or better yet, Thunderdome. Just one man's opinion...

    (If you don't know who DC is, you haven't been on the forum long enough.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by peabody View Post
    This would be pretty much right in the middle and I think would
    have been a better size.
    Why do people get hung up on it not being truly in the middle? That's irrelevant. It's a wheel size that works well. Better in some aspects than 26" and 29". A good compromise between the two. Ride it and you'll see what the buzz is about.

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    Why not 650Z. . .? Ohohohoh right ! Nissan might take action.......lol. I certainly like it better !

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    Agreed. Given that both 26" and 29" are essentially accidental/arbitrary, having 27.5 be exactly between them isn't necessary. That said, 27.5/650b is *also* basically arbitrary.

    It would be fun to be ultra rich and make a whole bunch of wheels and tires in, say, 1cm increments and then spend a few months double-blind testing them all to see what worked best/was most fun for a variety of people in all sorts of situations.

    I don't think I'm going to be getting that rich on framebuilder money, though!
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    why not 26 inches and 38mm? Doesn't really roll off the tongue does it? My bad.

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    Why not 650A instead of 650B?

    Quote Originally Posted by peabody View Post
    This would be pretty much right in the middle and I think would
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    Old enough to know better. And old enough not to care. Best age to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peabody View Post
    This would be pretty much right in the middle and I think would
    have been a better size.
    The rim would have been in the middle of 26ers and 700c but the tire wouldn't have been unless you used a smaller width than the 2.35s we started the ball rolling with six years ago.
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    If I went with 650a, the tire diameter would have been too big to fit inside most suspension forks at the time. This would have made conversions impossible, which in turn would have killed the mid-size wheel concept before it ever began. So as it turns out, 650b was the better (best!) size after all.

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    Why not 650A instead of 650B?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kirk Pacenti View Post
    If I went with 650a, the tire diameter would have been too big to fit inside most suspension forks at the time. This would have made conversions impossible, which in turn would have killed the mid-size wheel concept before it ever began. So as it turns out, 650b was the better (best!) size after all.

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    Yessir. Early on it was the MTBR basement wrenches converting 26'ers that jump started the "movement." Note to haters. At that time, IIRC, only Jamis, KMC & Haro, actually sold complete 650b bikes, and not too many of them at that. Wouldn't exactly call that a market driven phenomenon. Thanks to Velocity Blunt rims, Pacenti Neo Moto tires, convertible Fox forks and then dual size X Fusion forks, home wrenches were able to convert. I built the 2nd and 3rd wheels of my life to get on board. Had to buy a new X Fusion fork, however, not having a Fox on my 26'er, but that beat out a new bike. For sure I was the first person on my block to own a 650b, a HT conversion, and a 1X9 at that ( what an innovator; pretty sure I was also the first 1X rider as well).
    In 2010, the wheel size was so "market driven", friends, employees and owners of every LBS in my City just laughed at me. One owner said it was a wheel for children & women unable to fit on and men unable to handle 29'ers, and had zero future. And that was a Jamis dealer. So my first purpose built 650b was one of those ridiculously low priced 2010 Jamis B2 closeouts on Ebay. So a dealer lost a sale due to utter, total and complete disinterest in the product. But I wanted a FS trail bike and persisted. I was self driven. The market told me to pound salt.

    In 2013 and 2014, Specialized and Canondale, big players in the business, still say pound salt, while Giant, the biggest of all, says, we're all in. Spec and Cannondale are on the wrong side of history, IMO. Meanwhile, Kirk Pacenti can go around handing out cigars.
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