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    Running 650B as a hardtail what say you?

    I currently own a Ventana EL Padrino HT 29er and a Ventana El Bastardo FS 650B. So I have both wheel sizes. Honestly I love both bikes. The Padrino is faster but the Bastardo is more comfortable and a tad more fun. So I don't really need a new bike but have been lusting after the Yeti ARC Carbon which in my size would be a 650B HT. A few people I have talked to have said to me that if I love my 29er HT why mess with 650B. The people I have talked to have said that 29er is meant as a great XC platform in HT and that there is no need to go 650B when looking at a HT. What say you guys? I am also lusting after a Pivot 429 Carbon FS bike but I think I am going to wait and see if in the next year or two they release a bike similar to the 429 but in 650B.

    I love my Bastardo and just traded a guy my 5.5" rockers for his 4" rockers because I don't need 5.5" travel here in Michigan. So I am turning my Bastardo into a 4" travel bike. My fork is 130mm but I also want a slacker HA and doing the swap will accomplish that as well. I really want a carbon bike and like the 650B wheel size so the Yeti ARC makes sense but just wondering how the 650B HT would be.

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    For some reason, it's really fashionable right now to say that hardtails are the domain of 29'ers. That's just opinion. I love my 650b hardtail. That said, it sounds like you have your bases covered with your current stable, so I'm not sure why you'd buy another bike, 'cept for the ol' n+1 theory.

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    I love my explosif 650b. I bought it after a short test ride. Felt perfect! Haven't looked back since. It just fitted like a glove. I also own 29ers but this bike seems to have it all. Works really well as a HT.

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    I have a Whippet converted to 650b.

    Reason I disliked my 29er HT was it handled some of the tighter features more clumsily than I liked, it required too much effort for me to force it to do what I wanted. The 650b was a welcome change and solved that "issue", and as a result is much more playful. I think you'll like it.

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    Knowing that you ride in MI, a 29 HT is perfect for many of the trails there. If the Bastardo is more fun mainly because of the FS, a carbon HT might not do it for you. If it's more fun because of the wheel size, then go for the Yeti. That Yeti ARC is certainly a great bike to lust over! The Yeti HA is 69.5. How does that work out for your riding?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rice rocket View Post
    I have a Whippet converted to 650b.

    Reason I disliked my 29er HT was it handled some of the tighter features more clumsily than I liked, it required too much effort for me to force it to do what I wanted. The 650b was a welcome change and solved that "issue", and as a result is much more playful. I think you'll like it.
    This is the exact reason I am leaning towards getting the 650B HT and selling my HT 29er. I feel the same way about it in corners and tight turns. I love it on flats and going uphill but the handling is not as tight as I would like it to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steelbike View Post
    Knowing that you ride in MI, a 29 HT is perfect for many of the trails there. If the Bastardo is more fun mainly because of the FS, a carbon HT might not do it for you. If it's more fun because of the wheel size, then go for the Yeti. That Yeti ARC is certainly a great bike to lust over! The Yeti HA is 69.5. How does that work out for your riding?
    69.5 degree HA is about perfect for me. My Padrino right now is at 69.5 and I find it just about perfect.

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    I've been on a semi-custom Ventana 650B HT since Jan 2010.....mine is set up with a Fox Float 120mm fork. Although, my trails here in NorCal can beat the piss out of me but it's a great bike. I am now looking forward to my Ventana Alpino 120mm FS on days when the HT is just not the right bike.

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    650b ht?

    Quote Originally Posted by procos View Post
    This is the exact reason I am leaning towards getting the 650B HT
    Most definitely. And shoot I would have traded you for your rockers....

    Not me, but a top Pro on his "secret weapon" ARC 650B at Breckenridge Epic in Colorado:
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    Wait,who did he tell you that?....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMac47 View Post
    Most definitely. And shoot I would have traded you for your rockers....

    Not me, but a top Pro on his "secret weapon" ARC 650B at Breckenridge Epic in Colorado:
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    I'm assuming that is a joke because we did just trade rockers and shocks?

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