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    Norco Sight 650b

    OK now its public - will throw up some more pictures sometime this week

    http://www.norco.com/news/wp-content...2/07/Sight.pdf
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    Super excited about these bikes! Have a new Norco dealer just a couple miles from my house.....gotta go check em out.

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    Thanks for posting this.
    Lots to glean from the spec list, as to what's going to be available.

    In the one pic after the model listings, just before the 26" Sights, the RS fork looks big, like a 34mm stanchion...might be an illusion, as I heard they were 32s.

    I hope the re-configured frame works as well as the 2012 26", which got rave reviews by everyone.


    Any idea when they go on sale?

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    Not sure about that yet. Anything in particular you want to focus on? I swung a leg over the 2012 Sight for a week and had time on Shinobi (reviewed on MTBR in past review) so am looking at if from the pov of differences btwn 26, 650b, 29er (geometry differences make this an imperfect comparison of course); and how the Norco ART implementation of 4x4 suspension works.

    I'd prefer to keep it about impressions of the bike in itself of course but might as well find out what people want to know. Francis is doing the prelim piece on it
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    I forgot about Norco's chainstay length-by-size theory. I'm not sure I like it.

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    Do I understand it correctly that they are offering the same Sight frame with either 26" or 650b wheels and the effective BB height can be raised/lowered by +5/-15mm?

    Edit: probably not as other geometry figures are not the some. It is interesting that some sizes of the 650b frames have shorter CS and shorter wheelbase than the 26" frames.

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    I know what bike I would like to buy next year. I was looking at the sight earlier this year, but after running 650b on my hardtail I decided I would not want another 26" trail bike. This seems to solve that conundrum neatly.

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    Intereseting that they offer the Sight in both 26 & 650b, but appear to have gone all-in with 650b only on the Range

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    Quote Originally Posted by StiHacka View Post
    Do I understand it correctly that they are offering the same Sight frame with either 26" or 650b wheels and the effective BB height can be raised/lowered by +5/-15mm?

    Edit: probably not as other geometry figures are not the some. It is interesting that some sizes of the 650b frames have shorter CS and shorter wheelbase than the 26" frames.
    The 26er frame looks completely different from the 65b version though ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by StiHacka View Post
    Do I understand it correctly that they are offering the same Sight frame with either 26" or 650b wheels and the effective BB height can be raised/lowered by +5/-15mm?

    Edit: probably not as other geometry figures are not the some. It is interesting that some sizes of the 650b frames have shorter CS and shorter wheelbase than the 26" frames.
    Totally diff frames. Dirtrag initial impressions now up
    http://www.dirtragmag.com/webrag/rid...and-range-650b
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    Slack and low. 13.3" BB. Intense went this route with their new 650B bikes also. I'll reserve judgement as the reviews of the 26" Sight have been outstanding.

    Nice...3 different 650B RS forks including a Sector. I didn't know about that one
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    Quote Originally Posted by r1Gel View Post
    Totally diff frames. Dirtrag initial impressions now up
    http://www.dirtragmag.com/webrag/rid...and-range-650b
    That was really well written
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    LeeL: what does that BB raise/drop -15/+5 mean in those specs? TIA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StiHacka View Post
    LeeL: what does that BB raise/drop -15/+5 mean in those specs? TIA.
    Here's a nice definition

    "Bottom Bracket Drop: This dimension is the height difference between the center of the bottom bracket/crank and the center of the dropouts (where the wheel’s axle connects to the frame/fork). Some manufacturers replace the drop dimension with “Bottom Bracket Rise”, which conversely measures from the ground to the center of the bottom bracket. Both dimensions refer to the same thing in regards to fit and handling."

    Its a way to indicate BB height taking different wheel sizes into the equation

    I'll try to get a weight on the frame, measure BBheight the traditional way and see how the new CTD forks compared to the 2012 when on the bike. Might not be to the end of the week though
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    Thank you LeeL.

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    Lee, it looks like the Sight B1 geometry is really close to that of the Pivot Mach 5.7c, despite the wheel size difference. Similar feel or are there some significant differences worth mentioning?
    The glass is twice as large as it needs to be

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    Interesting the Sight 1 say it will come with the NN 2.35 and the Sight 2 a NN 2.4 and Sight 3 the Nevegal 2.35.

    The above linked test bike Sight 1 in that (very) mini review has the Nevegals. From my understanding the new NN tires are HUGE at almost 29" and should make the bike feel/ride quite different compared to a Nevegal equipped bike......I think. It's gonna be interesting to see once full production bike are available.
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    Whoa... There's going to be some really tough decisions to make next year... Norco, Intense and Turner are now my short list. Sh*t, forgot about the Genius... Good grief...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattsavage View Post
    Whoa... There's going to be some really tough decisions to make next year... Norco, Intense and Turner are now my short list. Sh*t, forgot about the Genius... Good grief...
    Don't forget the Ventana Zeus and I'll bet you will see a Tomac Snyper 140 (or something from Tomac) as well. That Snyper is a sleeper bike that's really good and Tomac's business partner is part of X-Fusion. It'll happen.

    edit...possibly add Pivot as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidad View Post
    Interesting the Sight 1 say it will come with the NN 2.35 and the Sight 2 a NN 2.4 and Sight 3 the Nevegal 2.35.

    The above linked test bike Sight 1 in that (very) mini review has the Nevegals. From my understanding the new NN tires are HUGE at almost 29" and should make the bike feel/ride quite different compared to a Nevegal equipped bike......I think. It's gonna be interesting to see once full production bike are available.
    The Nobby Nics in 2.35 in the 650 size are awesome. Such a big difference over the compound from the last time I tried them some three years ago. So much confidence braking, cornering, uphill in dry loose conditions in Whistler
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    Quote Originally Posted by andy f View Post
    Lee, it looks like the Sight B1 geometry is really close to that of the Pivot Mach 5.7c, despite the wheel size difference. Similar feel or are there some significant differences worth mentioning?
    Wifey has the Mach 5.7C = \i have the Mach 5. Will force her to ride the Sight B1 and ask her opinion
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    a nearby LBS had the Norco rep in today and he said October for the 2013 Sight/Range B's.
    The glass is twice as large as it needs to be

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    Read those pinkbike comments and the haters feed off the watery review comments about 650b. Seemed to give props towards the new design. I almost think the writer is staying on the fence to preserve credibility. Must of gotten stoned in his village, giving 29ers premature thumbs up reviews. lol
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