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    Quote Originally Posted by broomhandle View Post
    what about climbing issues? i swear that bike can not climb for crap. does the 650b help it? or make it worse?

    im assuming it prob bombs down better with the bigger tire right? that bike already bombs down.....

    im also running a '07 talas up front, i think it should clear it...
    Ha ha, funny you should ask about the climbing with the Prophet. Here is a link to that very question I asked in the AM forum. 8 pages long with plenty of flame throwing. FWIW I have had issues climbing with it but have come to terms and what I have to do. I thought it was me but it's not and I believe the 650B wheels do help. Also FWIW I've bought a new Jamis Dakar 650 B2 that I hope will climb more like the Specialized test bike I rode that made me feel like a hero. Prophet may be returned to 26" wheels for a jumping/rock trials/beat on training bike. I have the 08 Talas and no issues with clearance.

    Climbing ability...29" vs 26"
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    i think its just the bike is not a climber. its a "all mountain" for downhill only....

    i wish i could test a set of rims 1st before buying.... :0

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    Quote Originally Posted by broomhandle View Post
    i think its just the bike is not a climber. its a "all mountain" for downhill only....

    i wish i could test a set of rims 1st before buying.... :0
    Probably average, some are better and some worse. What is it that has you feeling this way? What setting do you have the rear shock in also, XC or FR? With a 75 degree STA in the XC shock position it should put you in a good position for climbing theoretically. I find the bike is very sensitive to front to back weight shifts, responds to body english, smooth pedaling if possible so it doesn't spin out and correct gear choice. I run a 75mm stem with 711mm bars on my size large. Bar ends about even or just a tad lower than saddle height (Rasse dropper post also). 650B wheels make the bike better for sure, especially the front if you want to only do that.

    Prophet was developed in New England rocky conditions (where I happen to live) and still works very well except for technical climbing IMO. 29" wheels and better frame and suspension designs have made that part allot easier. That Spec. 29'r I rode for 3 days was like cheating on most climbs and made me feel much better about my ability. Just have to work harder on the Prophet but it makes you a better rider.
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    I have a few super V's, much better climber i have also had a 1st gen jekyll. same. the prophet i have had since 07. im on the other ocean. Mt Tam is a killer on the bike. but its worth the down....

    i just feel its so much more work to climb than other bikes...

    and, its in XC for the shock.

    i have ridden 29ers that i love and some i hate. 650b seams like a good in between. i have not ridden yet... it just seams like my prophet is a good candi for it. and its no biggie just rims.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by danielsilva View Post
    2011 Cannondale Trail SL



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    Both Quasi-Motos and RaRa 2.25 fit perfectly with room to spare, no doubt the quasi-moto will fit too.
    That sure is a nice looking bike! Ride report?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sandyeggo View Post
    That sure is a nice looking bike! Ride report?
    Hard and fast. I have a squishy Rush ( also 650b ) and i still grab this one on most trails, i only prefer the Rush if the trail is REALLY hard and just way too much for a low travel HT.

    It's really stiff and while very harsh on your back, the thing just rolls with the 650b wheels. BEST. UPGRADE. EVER.

    It's not the lighest thing in the world at 22,4 lbs ( with the upgraded brakes ) but it was never built to be a WW bike.

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    650B conversion

    I'm planning to make my GT Force carbon into 650B.
    wheels fit in the frame just fine with pacenti 2.3 tires. I have been doing
    a lot of research and 650B just sounds like the better wheel size for
    a full suspension. Another mechanic in town claims it will make the bike
    ride very sluggish I don't think he knows what he's talking about... Does anybody have any input?

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    I've got a 2012 Scott Spark 40 (Rock Shock Reba fork). Does anyone know if it is compatible with 650B?. Would love to upgrade it!

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    Old Jamis Eureka

    Just performed CPR on this old girl. I gotta say, the 650b totally changes this bike. The Sun fork is nothing special but options are limited for 1" steering tubes so I took what I could get (without going broke). Overall a nice option for a bike ready for a yard sale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danielsilva View Post
    Hard and fast. I have a squishy Rush ( also 650b ) and i still grab this one on most trails, i only prefer the Rush if the trail is REALLY hard and just way too much for a low travel HT.

    It's really stiff and while very harsh on your back, the thing just rolls with the 650b wheels. BEST. UPGRADE. EVER.

    It's not the lighest thing in the world at 22,4 lbs ( with the upgraded brakes ) but it was never built to be a WW bike.
    You may not consider it light, but its lighter than my Flash Alloy converted to a SS. I bet it rides better, too.

    I used to own a Rush. I've actually been thinking of picking one up and doing a 650b conversion to it. I've been loving the hardtail SS thing, but it'd be nice to have a 650b fully in the stable, too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sandyeggo View Post
    You may not consider it light, but its lighter than my Flash Alloy converted to a SS. I bet it rides better, too.

    I used to own a Rush. I've actually been thinking of picking one up and doing a 650b conversion to it. I've been loving the hardtail SS thing, but it'd be nice to have a 650b fully in the stable, too!
    Yeah i'm also building a SS with an old steel frame that i found, never ridden in 10 years so it's mint. Too bad the thing isn't able to take some 650b wheels

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    Teigansdad -
    I'm figuring by your pictures that your Marzocchi Bomber did NOT work with the 650B...? (thus you traded it out for the Sun fork?) I have a 2004 Marzocchi Bomber Marathon S and it looks very tight based on my calculations. But the rest of my '01 Jamis Komodo Team frame looks as if it could work out fantastically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blits View Post
    I've got a 2012 Scott Spark 40 (Rock Shock Reba fork). Does anyone know if it is compatible with 650B?. Would love to upgrade it!
    I know the spark works with the Fox fork, not sure with the Reba. One of my friends has a Spark converted to 650 and he is still raving about it over 12mths later

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    Thanx Energiser!

    I'm so exited! Just found out where to buy 650B wheels in S.A.!!!! Can't wait!

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    Tomac Supermatic 120

    Anyone know if this frame can run 650B?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Throttlemire View Post
    Anyone know if this frame can run 650B?

    thx
    I'm gonna guess not. I tried it on the 140 Snyper and it was a no go. I really wanted the Snyper and the frame price is totally reasonable but it had to fit 650B front and back or I wasn't gonna buy one...so I didn't.

    I know Tomac has played around with 650B a bunch and his development partner has ties to X-Fusion (650B forks) so I'm hoping a 650B bike is in development. I had a number of email exchanges with him about the Snyper and I strongly urged them to build a full 650B bike.....and update their web site with up to date pics and more pics of complete bikes. Contact them and do the same and see what they say. Can't hurt.
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    Thanks. I just got an email from Tomac Bikes, 650B will NOT fit on the Supermatic 120. Damn shame as one is for sale on Ebay that would be a great build!

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    Giant Anthem X ?

    Hey.

    Does anyone know if a Giant Anthem X frame (alu from 2010) can fit a 650b wheel?


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    HI,

    Does any know if the Titus X Carbon can fir a rear 650b wheel?

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    I just tried my 6fiddyB rear on a 2009 commencal Meta 6 , no go.......
    my slightly weared 2.3 neo moto rubs the arc, it can still spin however......may be a smaller tire will fit.

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    Hi!

    Does anyone know if the Trek Elite 9.9 frame is compatible with 650b. I measured the frame clearance on the rear, and I figure if it fits it will be very tight, but can only be sure by trying...

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    Specialized (2009 carbon) Stumpjumper Hardtail

    Anyone tried a 650B conversion on one of these? I've got 6 weeks till my wheels arrive & patience isn't one of my best traits!*

    *I believe the 90mm Rock Shox SID Race won't work so I think i'll replace with an 80mm Fox fork

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    Its too bad that there are no 650B cyclo cross tires. This bike would kill!

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    Searched the thread and didn't see any mention of it....anyone know if a 2010 Jamis Dakar XC would be 650b compatible? (w/ a rockshox tora fork).

    thanks.

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    Ventana El Terremoto: Lyrik 170 DH fork with Kenda Nevegal 2.35 DTC 650 B.
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