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    650B+ Tires



    Just starting a thread to discuss the new B+ tire format that is starting to gather steam.
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    interesting indeed.

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    Safe riding,

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    My pair of WTB Trailblazers landed last week. Mounted to 40mm Derby rims they measure 60mm tread width and 70mm casing width. They fit in my Jones Ti Spaceframe with plenty of clearance.

    Trying to decide if I should ride them or wait for the Vee Trax Fatty. I just heard they will be released in the next week or two, and should be wider and lighter than the Trailblazer.
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    For those looking in on 27.5+ for the first time, Panaracer and Vee both have tires coming in this size as well.
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    what is the name of the 27.5+ Panaracer tire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMcG View Post
    what is the name of the 27.5+ Panaracer tire?
    Fat B Nimble, same as their fat bike and 29+ tire. They announced the 27.5+ and 29+ versions at Interbike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMcG View Post
    what is the name of the 27.5+ Panaracer tire?
    FatBnimble. Panaracer is making that tire in a 29x3 and a 27.5x3.

    Edit: Bikeny beat me to the board.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slow Danger View Post
    FatBnimble. Panaracer is making that tire in a 29x3 and a 27.5x3.

    Edit: Bikeny beat me to the board.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nvphatty View Post
    which makes you slow like tom brady
    Do I get his wife too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slow Danger View Post
    Do I get his wife too?
    for a nominal fee sure.

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    cool post on WTB's FB page. Two bikes at IB with Trailblazers. One from 44 bikes and the other a Jones Spaceframe. WTB - Rad Bikes of Interbike | WTB

    On the Jones, with an eccentric BB he just rotated the BB to the top and eliminated most of the 6-10 mm BB drop that results from using the 650B/Trailblazer wheel. Pretty smart!

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    Now, I'm going to have to hold onto my 650 wheelset for awhile!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeny View Post
    My pair of WTB Trailblazers landed last week. Mounted to 40mm Derby rims they measure 60mm tread width and 70mm casing width. They fit in my Jones Ti Spaceframe with plenty of clearance.
    What's the BB height of your Jones bike with these wheels on it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by senor_mikey View Post
    On the Jones, with an eccentric BB he just rotated the BB to the top and eliminated most of the 6-10 mm BB drop that results from using the 650B/Trailblazer wheel. Pretty smart!
    The ebb helps, but only if you aren't already riding with it set for highest position, especially since the Jones already has a low bb height. Some bikes are on the verge of being too low for certain types of riding as it is. This tire may not suit chunkier riding where riders rely on clearance, but that type of riding is not what the Trailblazer designed for so personal tastes and terrain are likely to play a bigger factor than an ebb on whether this tire will work for riders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slow Danger View Post
    The ebb helps, but only if you aren't already riding with it set for highest position, especially since the Jones already has a low bb height. Some bikes are on the verge of being too low for certain types of riding as it is. This tire may not suit chunkier riding where riders rely on clearance, but that type of riding is not what the Trailblazer designed for so personal tastes and terrain are likely to play a bigger factor than an ebb on whether this tire will work for riders.
    I'm actually hoping the Trailblazer will work well on low speed chunk at lower pressures.
    I will have to be pretty aware of BB height. We will see...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeny View Post
    My pair of WTB Trailblazers landed last week. Mounted to 40mm Derby rims they measure 60mm tread width and 70mm casing width. They fit in my Jones Ti Spaceframe with plenty of clearance.

    Trying to decide if I should ride them or wait for the Vee Trax Fatty. I just heard they will be released in the next week or two, and should be wider and lighter than the Trailblazer.
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    Please.. Please.. Give 'er a try
    I would love to hear your what you think about them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyinmike View Post
    I'm actually hoping the Trailblazer will work well on low speed chunk at lower pressures.
    I will have to be pretty aware of BB height. We will see...
    Well, let us know. I'm in a position where I really can't afford loss of bb height. Low pressure will drop it even further.
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    It's kind of funny that this is like the original French system of fitting tires, where you had a set outside tire diameter (600, 650, or 700mm) and several width designations (A, B, and C). Going to a fatter tire meant using a smaller rim, and your bottom bracket height and gearing would stay the same.

    Maybe we should start calling these 29E tires...

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    desperate attempt to make 29'ers relevant since 27.5 is in town and will surely own the entire market shortly....

    I kid I kid...now want some 650b+ but ditched my 29'er

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    Quote Originally Posted by Entrenador View Post
    What's the BB height of your Jones bike with these wheels on it?
    Thanks.
    I put that in another post, forget to mention it here. My EBB is set at around the 10:00 position, and the BB height is about 11.5". Sounds like it might be a bit low for chunk.

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    I am super excited about 27.5+ as it fills in one of the last gaps in choice for diameter/width (we now have 31x3, 29xanything you want up to 4.8", 27.5xanything up to 3" or so, etc) but honestly, they are not going to work that well on most 29" frames. Anything big enough to achieve the same diameter as a 29x2.3 or so is going to be too huge to fit in most frames, and a smaller tire (like the WTB) is going to cause a lot of people BB height/pedal strike problems, especially if run at low pressure where you're looking at 15+mm less BB height.

    But they are still awesome and I want some.

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    I'm planning on getting a 27.5 x 3.25 tire, once they actually exist. I'm going to put it on a 40mm Derby rim and see what it looks like. If it looks good I'm going to get a 27.5 wheelset for my Mukluk and try them out. If that goes well I might have a bike made that uses that tire. I hope that more than one tire company makes tires around that size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Welnic View Post
    I'm planning on getting a 27.5 x 3.25 tire, once they actually exist. I'm going to put it on a 40mm Derby rim and see what it looks like. If it looks good I'm going to get a 27.5 wheelset for my Mukluk and try them out. If that goes well I might have a bike made that uses that tire. I hope that more than one tire company makes tires around that size.
    I am doing the same exact thing, although my frame is already done and waiting on the tires. The bike has a 73mm bb, 135 symmetrical rear, can fit 26x3.8, as shown in pics. I think a 27.5 with a 3.2 tire will be very similar in height to what I am currently running. Wheelset is being built as we speak, tires in a couple weeks I hope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1strongone1 View Post
    I am doing the same exact thing, although my frame is already done and waiting on the tires. The bike has a 73mm bb, 135 symmetrical rear, can fit 26x3.8, as shown in pics. I think a 27.5 with a 3.2 tire will be very similar in height to what I am currently running. Wheelset is being built as we speak, tires in a couple weeks I hope.
    Cool bike. Did you have it built with these new 27.5+ tires in mind?
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