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    2013 Norco Sight 650B Killer B build and review

    2013 Norco Sight 650B Killer B

    Frame Size Med 140mm
    Fork 2013 Fox 34 Float 150mm
    Shock 2013 Fox DHX Air 7.785x2.25
    Bars Race Face SIXC Carbon 29.5”
    Stem Race Face Atlas 50mm
    Cranks Race Face SIXC Carbon 175mm 34t Ring
    Race Face Atlas I-Beam Seat Post and Seat
    Chain Guide MRP G3 Mini
    Brakes Avid XO 180mm Rotors
    Grips ODI Extreme Look-Ons
    Shifter Sram X9 10 Speed
    Rear Derailleur Sram X9 Type 2 10 Speed
    Cassette Sram X9
    Chain Sram X9
    Wheels Loaded X-Lite 650b/27.5
    Tires Continental X-Kings 27.5x2.4



    Bike is built up for All-Mt riding and Enduro racing. The soul purpose of this build was to find that happy medium All-Mt bike between 5” and 6.75” of travel. I was going back and forth between the Norco Range 650B Killer B with 160mm of travel and the Sight 650B Killer B with 140mm of travel. After talking to a lot of friends in the industry about 650B/27.5 bikes, I decided to go with the Sight.



    I am a seasoned Gravity Racer with 15 years of MTB racing and 8 years in BMX. I have been very lucky to have worked with a lot of great people in the industry and raced alongside some wonderful people. With a growing family and age creeping up on me, I have decided move more into Enduro and Super D racing. Let’s just say I have had a lot more urge for adventure and endurance riding. When I decided to do this, I started researching all I could find on the differences between 26”, 27.5”, and 29” bikes. I spent time on both 26” and 29”, but no time on the 27.5”. I like the sure speed of a 29” for climbing and straight lines, but we all know the 29er lacks corner speed. With that said, I choose to try the 650B/27.5. Boy did I make a great choice!



    We put a lot of faith in our parts and bike build. So in order to have that confidence to push ourselves we have to trust our products. So the parts specs where based of brands that I have spent a lot of time on. Although this build is not for everyone, it fits me to the tee.



    There is a lot of talk right now about 650B/27.5 bikes, both positive and negative. Think most of the negative talk is the lack of experience and knowledge behind the 650B/27.5 wheel size and not willing to try new things. I for one, welcome new and innovative product in the cycling industry. When I got the chance to work with a company behind the 650B movement like Norco I jumped on the opportunity. Norco has put a lot of thought and engineering into their 650B frame designs. The Sight Killer B has a low center of gravity feel with an aggressive geometry, yet doesn’t feel cramped in the cockpit. I have long torso and arms for someone 5’11”. The chain stay is shorter than most 26er All-Mt bikes. This helps with pulling manuals and whipping through berms. One thing I love about this bike. The140mm of ART Suspension is plush and soaks up anything you can throw at it on the trail. I was very surprised at how well this bike pedaled even after taking the stock Fox Float CTD shock off and replacing it with a Fox DHX Air. You do get a little pedal bob when standing, but you do with most 5”+ travel bikes. Will say when I was in the saddle pedaling, I didn’t feel any bob at all. With only a few true 650/27.5 forks to choose from in the 140mm to 160mm range, I choose to use the Fox 34 Float 27.5 dropped down to 150mm of travel. The fork has plenty of tire clearance to run up to any 2.5” DH tire (even a DH Mud), which will work great when I take this bike to go ride at the parks. I do wish the fork had its own High and Low compression controls to fine tune in the suspension. Mainly, because I am a suspension nerd and like the ability to fine tune. Over all, the 3 position tuning meets most any rider’s needs. I choose the Race Face SIXC carbon Bars and Cranks not only to reduce weight, but help take away most of the vibration form the 4 points a rider feels from the bike. Race Face has hit a home run with their SIXC carbon products and has been proven on the World Cup DH circuit. As for the rest of the drive train I am using Sram’s X9 Shifter and Type 2 Med size Derailleur with the new MRP G3 Mini chain guide. This combination, I have found to work and shift flawlessly. The Type 2 Derailleur also helps with chain slap and keeps the bike quiet when riding down the trail. It’s nice to only hear the sound of the tires beating the ground up. For the wheel set I choose Loaded USA’s new 650B X-Lite wheel set. The wheel set is light, yet strong and stiff. For a wheel set just over 1700 grams, I am impressed with its lateral stiffness. I laced the wheels up with some Continental 27.5x 2.4 X-Kings. I have fallen in love with the feel and reliability of the Continental brand 3 years ago and would have not put anything else on this bike. Although they don’t have their full line of MTB tires in the 27.5 size yet, I have found the X-King to be a capable tire for All-Mt riding. I am looking forward to getting my hands on some Trail Kings as soon as they are ready. Overall the entire bike build is solid and comes in at 28.8 lbs. I plan to run a Dropper Post for Enduro races which will add about 1lb more to the total weight of the bike.















    The overall feel of the bike is impressive in many ways. I found myself comfortable on the 650B/27.5 size wheels right off the bat. Something I didn’t feel when I got on a 29er. Cornering and acceleration speed was not a problem at all like on the 29er. It felt much like a 26er. Most 26er riders will feel right at home on the 650b/27.5. The big advantages I felt were, you don’t have to work as hard to keep your speed up and no hang up feeling when riding over roots and rocks (much like the 29er). The 650/27.5 wheel size has truly taken the advantages of both the 26er and 29er sizes to offer the best package for a great All-Mt bicycle.



    Go out and try a 650B bike for yourself,

    Cecil
    Last edited by FCLINDER; 04-03-2013 at 04:21 PM.
    Get out and ride a 650B!

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    Great review and pics. Thanks!
    Paragraphs would make it easier to read

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    Beautiful bike, great review, thank you and congrats! I was not aware the X-Kings were available in the 650b size, good to see another good AM option. I like you smart build!

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    Nice review. Sweet bike, I'm jealous! Congrats on your new build!




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    dropper post needed!

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    Amazing build, did you do it yourself?
    Don't forget to cut your steerer tube

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    Awesome pics and review. Amazing bike also

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    Quote Originally Posted by olijay View Post
    Amazing build, did you do it yourself?
    Don't forget to cut your steerer tube
    Thanks! Yes, I do all my builds. As for the Steerer, it is cut to the right size. I adjust my bar height a lot due to different courses I race through out the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StiHacka View Post
    Beautiful bike, great review, thank you and congrats! I was not aware the X-Kings were available in the 650b size, good to see another good AM option. I like you smart build!
    As far as I know the X-Kings 27.5 are not available to the public by retail yet. They will be soon and worth a try. The Trail Kings will be the ticket once they are available for all conditions.

    Cecil
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    Quote Originally Posted by FCLINDER View Post
    As far as I know the X-Kings 27.5 are not available to the public by retail yet. They will be soon and worth a try. The Trail Kings will be the ticket once they are available for all conditions.

    Cecil
    Thank you Cecil. Have you seen or tried the Vee Rubber Trail Taker 2.4? That is a sweet big fat tire, too. My wife's 26" 2.4 Trail Kings look like skinny tubulars compared to the Taker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FCLINDER View Post
    As far as I know the X-Kings 27.5 are not available to the public by retail yet. They will be soon and worth a try. The Trail Kings will be the ticket once they are available for all conditions.

    Cecil
    Nice bike.I wish the Norco bikes were available locally I'd snap one up.

    Have you tried an HD in pacestar. I would have thought xkings would be too sketchy in the front for enduro. Great speed for the rear though.

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    Looks awesome!

    Would you be so kind to carefully measure the BB height. Norco lists it as 13.3" but MTBR measured it at 13.6". For where I live 13.3" is just to low with an active FSR suspension.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidad View Post
    Looks awesome!

    Would you be so kind to carefully measure the BB height. Norco lists it as 13.3" but MTBR measured it at 13.6". For where I live 13.3" is just to low with an active FSR suspension.
    I measured in at 13.4" with a 150mm fork. I bet 13.6" is with a 160mm fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FCLINDER View Post
    I measured in at 13.4" with a 150mm fork. I bet 13.6" is with a 160mm fork.

    Cecil
    Thanks very much. I'll bet you're correct since he had installed the 160 fork onto it. Love the bike but without demoing it in my terrain I won't risk ordering one or a frame set.
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    whoops - wrong thread
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    One of my best buds borrowed my Sight and I warned that it will ruin him.

    He said he is ruined now and will have trouble riding his current bikes.

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    Francois, how is that shootout coming along?

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    Mr Linder, since you clearly know what the f you are doing on a bike, can you share why you went Sight over Range? Did you ride both?

    I've spent the last 3 years on a 140 Stump carbon fsr with 650 wheels on it and was looking Range for more park time as well as enduro and endurance races. I would be going from 2.4 tires to 2.0, back and forth during the season. I just sent a request over for a Range frame and I think that's the way to go for me (I park'd last year on an enduro with Totem, 26).

    Thanks for your insight. Great build, purty bike.

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    Wow, some bike !!! - looks like no expense spared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trailbildr View Post
    Mr Linder, since you clearly know what the f you are doing on a bike, can you share why you went Sight over Range? Did you ride both?

    I've spent the last 3 years on a 140 Stump carbon fsr with 650 wheels on it and was looking Range for more park time as well as enduro and endurance races. I would be going from 2.4 tires to 2.0, back and forth during the season. I just sent a request over for a Range frame and I think that's the way to go for me (I park'd last year on an enduro with Totem, 26).

    Thanks for your insight. Great build, purty bike.

    mk
    Sure can, as I have had to explain this already on another site:

    My choice for the Sight over the Range had a lot to do with my riding style and the type of trails I ride 85% of the time. Mainly climbing 3500ft+ of elevation in a day to hit the raw fun trails in Pisgah National Forest. I only do park riding when I go to a race. I am also mainly focused on Enduro and Super D's this season. I have had plenty of 6" to 7" bikes in the past. Although they were all great bikes at that time, they all felt sluggish to me. That is why I was back and forth on the Sight over the Range. I didn't want a sluggish feeling bike again. After riding the Range I can say its not sluggish at all. When looking at a 650B or 29er over a 26" bike you have to take the wheel size in consideration when choosing your suspension travel size. Meaning a 650B 140mm travel bike will feel and perform like a 26" 150mm to 160mm travel bike or very close. So a 650B 160mm will fill more like a 170mm to 180mm bike. I knew I didn't need that much travel, so that is why I picked the Sight over the Range.

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    Thanks for the review. Good to see a personal review with some thought put into it. I will be buying a sight frame. Hopefully the carbon. It's a absolute ripper.

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    Great looking bike and build. Do you even need a chainguide tho with a single ring setup and the new clutch rear der (especially if you were to go short cage)? PM me when you want to sell her!

    Have FUN!

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    I just test rode this bike at our local demo day and I truly loved it. It was the 4th 650B I've ridden (Jamis 650 two years ago, Intense Carbine 275, Jamis Dakar 650B today, and the Norco), and I really liked it. My next bike is most definitely going to be 650B, and this bike is in the running. Oh, and this bike was running SRAM XX1 1x11 with the 10-42 cassette and 32T front. Very nice.

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    I've been waiting for companies to get the 650B thing dialed in and it looks like the killer B is in front. I'm still wondering how the hell is the Killer-B frame almost 1k more than the 26 version and farther more it's even more expensive than the Aurum DH frame. What gives? I would love to get the carbon Killer-B, but their talking 4k for tha base model and if the 2013 frame vs complete Killer-B3 is any indication of price the frame is going to be $3850.

    Also interested in the Marin Mount Vision that's going to come out this fall, but that really depends on what their pricing is going be for carbon.

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    Pisgah...ahhhh. I'm on Lake Norman and looooove to get up there! Stoked to see the Enduro up there this summer! Me and my Genius, booyah!

    BTW, do you think 1x11 is suited for Pisgah/Dupont/Brevard area? Thx!

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