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    Trek 29+ coming

    Saw a picture today. I am not sure if I can post it. Swamped at work, so I will give quick impressions.
    Frame looks aluminum. Driveside chainstay is elevated. Looks like it has sliders
    Rims are new to me. Never seen them before. I can't tell much detail from the pic.
    Squishy Manitou fork
    Geo looks short and slack.

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    The rims in question are Mulefut 50s

    The bike looks sick, it should be at Sea Otter

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    you're welcome

    looks like slack head angle and SUPER short chainstays, pretty sick

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    Trek just won't let any fad go without testing the waters, will they? Looks cool, I'm intrigued.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stopbreakindown View Post
    The rims in question are Mulefut 50s

    The bike looks sick, it should be at Sea Otter
    I thought they might be the Mulefet 50s, but I couldn't tell for sure.
    The bikes I saw were a greenish rigid one with a carbon fork, and a purple hardtail with standard seat post. It looks like they will have several options.

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    I want that fork, I want that fork, I want that fork......for my Krampus. Did I mention I wanted that fork?

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    Interesting indeed. Elevated chainstay means belt drive compatible without splitting the frame. Also looks like some sort of sliding dropout for SS duty.

    They're covering all the bases!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitanofChaos View Post
    you're welcome

    looks like slack head angle and SUPER short chainstays, pretty sick

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    The elevated CS is to accommodate the shorter CS length. Looks like adjustable dropouts is integrated with the derailleur hanger.
    I wonder how much travel and the HT angle.
    Great looking bike!

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    I've heard that it will be a new model in the "Stache" lineup.
    I'm looking forward to regretting this.......

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    A bunch of these already shipped. The entry level one at least with the rigid fork. They use the Stranglehold rear drop out which works very well on the Superfly SS. I'm ordering one tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by temporoad View Post
    I want that fork, I want that fork, I want that fork......for my Krampus. Did I mention I wanted that fork?

    The pic I have shows the fork from an angle that it has plenty of clearance for mud.

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    LBS just posted he will have some tomorrow. Hopefully weather holds out for our weekly ride/cookout so we can test ride one.

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    1. What are they called?
    2. What's the bets not available in the UK, just like the Superfly ss :-(

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    This just looks like a fun bike. I may have to part with my Superfly SS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TitanofChaos View Post
    you're welcome

    looks like slack head angle and SUPER short chainstays, pretty sick

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    Looks like a Yelli Screamy!
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    This looks pretty cool. Interesting that on the current Stache, the seat tube is sculpted for tire clearance, but the tire still is pretty far back. Here, they used the clearance to slam the wheel forward. Nice! Too bad I just blew my bike fund on a new fat frame...

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    Yawn. They had the opportunity (since they are so late to the "+" party) to create something unique, but are just following the herd now. Imagine how cool a "+" version of the Sawyer, with a swoopy steel frame plus modern geometry would have been?
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    I think they did a pretty good job--the elevated chainstay and super short chainstays are new in the market. The 29+ party isn't exactly raging, so I'm glad to see a big manufacturer step up.

    Quote Originally Posted by deuxdiesel View Post
    Yawn. They had the opportunity (since they are so late to the "+" party) to create something unique, but are just following the herd now. Imagine how cool a "+" version of the Sawyer, with a swoopy steel frame plus modern geometry would have been?

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    Just saw these in the computer at work... Many models are shipping now. This is the new Stache lineup, all 29+.

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    I don't see anything on the trek web site yet?

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    Here is a good summation of what we know so far about the Stache 29+ Lineup

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    It's great to see another 29+ bike available as it should help guarantee tire production for us Krampus owners 5-10 years down the road. But I have no interest in PFBB's or Boost spacing so I'll pass on this one and dream of something like a Nimble 9+ with Dirt Wizards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob_m View Post
    I don't see anything on the trek web site yet?
    Ya it's odd; they didn't update the regular website but they did update the dealer site.

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    Anyone know what the MSRP on these will be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by deuxdiesel View Post
    Yawn. They had the opportunity (since they are so late to the "+" party) to create something unique, but are just following the herd now. Imagine how cool a "+" version of the Sawyer, with a swoopy steel frame plus modern geometry would have been?
    http://forums.mtbr.com/27-29/trek-29-coming-963127.html

    Sooo... A bike that weighs 40lbs.?

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    Full details are now up on Treks website...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sslos View Post
    http://forums.mtbr.com/27-29/trek-29-coming-963127.html

    Sooo... A bike that weighs 40lbs.?

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    Yep. The + movement isn't about the fastest XC bike, but comfort and traction. No way it would be 40 pounds, but a 30 pound steel frame front suspension 29 + is easily attainable.
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    Now if only they could offer a 29+ hardtail at the price point of the 29+ rigid or 29" Stache 7, I might be able to afford on in this lifetime.

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    I like the new bike, but am glad that I just got the regular 2015 Stache 7. I wonder if the regular Stache will go away now. As of now they list both versions on their site.
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    The Pinkbike review states 28.5lbs not 40lbs.
    2 wheels == True

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    Aw Sh*t, 29+ jumped the shark. They'll be in WalMart next! ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by deuxdiesel View Post
    Imagine how cool a "+" version of the Sawyer, with a swoopy steel frame plus modern geometry would have been?
    I would like that.

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    $1760 for the pretty basic spec on the Stache 5 isn't a deal that's sending me scrambling to my local Trek store. Nice looking frame, though, and 420mm chainstays on a 29+ bike is amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnroyal View Post
    It's great to see another 29+ bike available as it should help guarantee tire production for us Krampus owners 5-10 years down the road. But I have no interest in PFBB's or Boost spacing so I'll pass on this one and dream of something like a Nimble 9+ with Dirt Wizards.
    +1. No interest in PF or boost.

    Good to see a big player jump into 29+ though. I figured this was coming after the Chupacabra came out.

    Wonder if anyone has tried 29+ in a nimble with the drops all the way back?

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    Am I the only one here who thinks they should have kept the normal Stache?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CannondaleF9 View Post
    Am I the only one here who thinks they should have kept the normal Stache?
    They're still available
    Better to have and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r1Gel View Post
    They're still available
    For now at least, remains to be seen if they will carry on into the next MY.
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    I got to check out the 9 in person last night, sick bike, didn't throw it on the scale but around 28-32# sounds right
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    Quote Originally Posted by deuxdiesel View Post
    Yawn. They had the opportunity (since they are so late to the "+" party) to create something unique, but are just following the herd now. Imagine how cool a "+" version of the Sawyer, with a swoopy steel frame plus modern geometry would have been?
    I'm working on this with my sawyer, 29+ requires new dropouts, I'm going to go b+, skip machining new dropouts and keep the same geometry

    Sadly I'll miss out on all the cool new forks with it's straight headtube
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    The Stache 5 is sharp!

    I do agree the Sawyer+ would be amazing! I've never ridden one, but always liked the way it looked.

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    Geo chart on the trek website shows seat angle is below 70 degrees! Is that meant to be an effective angle? If so, I wonder how is super slack seat tube combined with super short stays going to work on steep seated climbs..

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    I don't understand why they couldn't do this geo on the original Stache. That chainstay is crazy short!
    Better to have and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vemeno View Post
    Geo chart on the trek website shows seat angle is below 70 degrees! Is that meant to be an effective angle? If so, I wonder how is super slack seat tube combined with super short stays going to work on steep seated climbs..
    I noticed that too, I think they are measuring this angle from the BB to the clamp rather than the actual angle the seat post will be at, the seat post is definitely not more straight up than the head tube in person
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    Quote Originally Posted by seat_boy View Post
    $1760 for the pretty basic spec on the Stache 5 isn't a deal that's sending me scrambling to my local Trek store. Nice looking frame, though, and 420mm chainstays on a 29+ bike is amazing.
    They are on par (I think about $100 less) with the Krampus as far a price, and I am sure it's considerable lighter. Tubeless should be easier since it comes wit tubeless ready tires and rims. I was able to get my Krampus barely under 30 lbs. with single speed conversion, Chupacabras tubeless and carbon fork. The tires alone are $120 each. It makes the 5 look like a decent deal.

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    I can't see why people are complaining? This is what the original Stache should have been. Amazing geometry and decent price. Hell, Yelli is pretty expensive for a frame with similar geo but not the same tire clearance.

    I have a custom Walt 29+ with sub 17" chainstays and it's amazing. People are going to love this bike! Plus the suspension fork option, great rims, great tires etc.

    Only complain I see is the boost and pressfit bb, but boost is sort of necessary for short chainstays and huge tires. I did an offset frame to make it work with a 142x12 on my personal frame.

    I'm stoked on these. Looks like Trek has been getting a few things right for once. All the fat tires have been great. The rims are nice and set up tubeless (WITH BEAD LOCK) and geo has been on point. Big cups!

    As for the 29+ Sawyer thing, look into custom! Oddity Cycles makes amazing frames that are steel and sawyer like.
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    After spending three years on a bike whose stay length is adjustable from 16.25 to 17.25, 16.5 is shorter than I found to be (for me) optimum. Beyond that, I think this thing is killer and like the aesthetics more than those of my Krampus.

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    Here is more on the Bontrager TLR 29+ wheels that were obviously designed around the Chupacabra tires. It's interesting that they didn't have these ready when the Stache line was finalized, but maybe it would have made the complete bikes cost hundreds more than they already do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by appleSSeed View Post
    I can't see why people are complaining? This is what the original Stache should have been. Amazing geometry and decent price. Hell, Yelli is pretty expensive for a frame with similar geo but not the same tire clearance.

    I have a custom Walt 29+ with sub 17" chainstays and it's amazing. People are going to love this bike! Plus the suspension fork option, great rims, great tires etc.

    Only complain I see is the boost and pressfit bb, but boost is sort of necessary for short chainstays and huge tires. I did an offset frame to make it work with a 142x12 on my personal frame.

    I'm stoked on these. Looks like Trek has been getting a few things right for once. All the fat tires have been great. The rims are nice and set up tubeless (WITH BEAD LOCK) and geo has been on point. Big cups!

    As for the 29+ Sawyer thing, look into custom! Oddity Cycles makes amazing frames that are steel and sawyer like.
    I'm complaining because most likely they won't offer a factory build 29er non plus.
    I want the Stache but one that has real 29er wheels, and something that costs less than $2k and has front suspension.
    I am not paying $2500 for a Stache, that's insane! I would rather buy an Instinct for a couple hundred more.

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