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    Specialized Fuse 6Fattie

    On Friday afternoon I took delivery of this beast, a 2016 Specialised Fuse Expert 6Fattie. I'm a tall guy so I went with the XXL and it's plenty enormous.

    The XXL runs a 75mm stem as standard but I put a 70mm aftermarket stem on it. I'm actually wishing I'd gone even shorter to something like 60mm or 65mm. The stock bars were far too narrow for me so I've got some 800mm bars on there now. That's definitely too wide but I didn't have time yet to do a decent job of cutting the them down to 780mm, which is my favoured width for trail riding.

    With some good pedals, bottle cage/multi-tool, bar and stem upgrade (still running tubes for now) it weighs right on 30 pounds which seems OK to me for such a huuuuge frame and tyres. The Specialised Stout crankset and TranzX dropper are probably really heavy and I'm not at all keen on the dropper. It's definitely a budget piece.

    The first ride was interesting. I haven't ridden a hardtail for a very long time so that was initially more noticeable to me than the tyre width. I somehow managed to crash in the first corner. Not really sure what happened. I'm running around 16psi in the tyres. I weigh 260 pounds without riding gear/pack so i guess that is pretty low? I crashed several more times in big rockgardens which I put down to the low tyre pressure and lack of fitness for clearing boulders. I bent the front brake lever right around on itself. I was able to bend it back and finished the ride, but the lever is shot. I have some Shimano Saints on order, luckily. It doesn't need such hardcore brakes but there was a deal where I got them cheaper than XTs. I'm not at all keen on the stock brakes which are Avid DB3. Reviews I've read mention different brakes than came on mine. I'm Australian and even an Australia review unit had SRAM Guide R, so maybe they changed the spec shortly before release? The Manitou Magnum Comp I will need some more time with. It really ramps up for the second half of the stroke. I've read that it can be tricky to get setup perfectly. It didn't stand out as good or bad; but it did the job.

    In general I found the bike had tonnes of grip but took a bit to get leaned over. It seemed to want to stand up and power ahead. I'm sure I'll adjust to giving it some more body language. I found it hugely enjoyable to ride and it certainly smoothed out the chatter of the trail.

    I'm loving the bike and would definitely recommend it. Especially for anyone my height (even taller) after a big bike.

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    surprised the fuse hasn't got more mentions round here thus far.

    looks like a great line of bikes!

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    Looks Good! I ordered the Expert as well, in yellow. Ill post pics and info on mine later this week.

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    I forgot to mention the geometry. The slack head angle is great! And with the top tube being so long and the rear as short as they could go, I think they could have specced them with really short stems rather than just short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AptosRider View Post
    Looks Good! I ordered the Expert as well, in yellow. Ill post pics and info on mine later this week.
    Congrats! The yellow is great. I didn't have any colour choice. The colour of mine is kind of old school. Wouldn't normally be my choice.

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    I'm having issues with the TranzX dropper post. While fully extended and without touching the lever I'm finding it bounces down/up about 10mm as I hit bumps while seated. Feels awful and I imagine isn't good for it. I think perhaps it can't take my weight. I can't find any documentation online. It never ceases to amaze me how expensive bicycles can be sold with such limited manuals/documentation. I've emailed Specialised.

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    thomson elite posts don't do that and are way lighter. hope this helps

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    Looks great and BIG! All ya need to get you going with a plus bike on a budget! Looks like plenty of clearance out back between the stays and nice slack head angle...all a Plus for this kind of bike! ...Enjoy!
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    I use Thomson fixed posts and absolutely love them. I'd love a Thomson Covert dropper but can't afford it. Close to $600 here. Ouch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid_Android View Post
    I use Thomson fixed posts and absolutely love them. I'd love a Thomson Covert dropper but can't afford it. Close to $600 here. Ouch.
    If i pick up a pro, the dropper will hafta go. Seriously considering a red pro

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    The red Pro was what I wanted, too. The latest version of the Specialized dropper is meant to be much better than previous models. You might find its OK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid_Android View Post
    The red Pro was what I wanted, too. The latest version of the Specialized dropper is meant to be much better than previous models. You might find its OK.
    Pro wasn't available?

    I'm a rigid post guy, you can have my dropper!

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    Quote Originally Posted by newmarketrog View Post
    Pro wasn't available?

    I'm a rigid post guy, you can have my dropper!
    The Pro was available with a 3-4 month wait on the Red colour. I have trouble living with delayed gratification. I'm weak

    Thanks mate! I'd love to chuck you some $ for the dropper but I'm in Australia and I assume you aren't. Thanks, though!

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    I'm really hoping to be able to snag one of these soon. My wife wants the women's RUZE and i think they look like an absolute BLAST to ride.

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    I plan on getting my wife the Ruze, which will be her first offroad bicycle. My shop won't order me one just yet however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrich88 View Post
    I'm really hoping to be able to snag one of these soon. My wife wants the women's RUZE and i think they look like an absolute BLAST to ride.
    Quote Originally Posted by Suns_PSD View Post
    I plan on getting my wife the Ruze, which will be her first offroad bicycle. My shop won't order me one just yet however.
    Lucky girls!The Ruze looks awesome!

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    So, the brakes I'll have replaced with Shimano Saints shortly but now I'm thinking about a new Shimano groupset.

    When it comes to chainline and how that relates to the boost spacing etc I don't really know much. I'd like to buy this XT groupset but don't really know if it's suitable. I guess the bottom bracket would have to suit as well.

    Any advice?
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    If you're buying the groupset with cranks, i'm not sure about the cranks. But in the Shimano forum I posted my first ride impressions on the new XT m8000 1x11.

    It's pretty awesome, I would HIGHLY recommend it!

    Here is the link:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrich88 View Post
    If you're buying the groupset with cranks, i'm not sure about the cranks. But in the Shimano forum I posted my first ride impressions on the new XT m8000 1x11.

    It's pretty awesome, I would HIGHLY recommend it!

    Here is the link:
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    Thanks tor the feedback on the group-set. It certainly seems like some quality gear. I just need to make sure it fits this funky bicycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid_Android View Post
    So, the brakes I'll have replaced with Shimano Saints shortly but now I'm thinking about a new Shimano groupset.

    When it comes to chainline and how that relates to the boost spacing etc I don't really know much. I'd like to buy this XT groupset but don't really know if it's suitable. I guess the bottom bracket would have to suit as well.

    Any advice?
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    You'll want the crank with the 53mm chain line. Bottom bracket is standard width.



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    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid_Android View Post
    So, the brakes I'll have replaced with Shimano Saints shortly but now I'm thinking about a new Shimano groupset.

    When it comes to chainline and how that relates to the boost spacing etc I don't really know much. I'd like to buy this XT groupset but don't really know if it's suitable. I guess the bottom bracket would have to suit as well.

    Any advice?
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    That new XT crank does look pretty nice, and it has 2 chainline options. Theoretically, to 50mm chainline version is for normal 35/142 hubs and the 53mm chainline version is for Boost 148 hubs. In reality you can use either one with a Boost setup. The 50mm chainline version will offset the chainring toward the bigger cogs a bit. If you spend most of your time in the bigger cogs, that might actually be good as the chainline would be straighter and it should result in slightly less wear.

    All minor differences and either will work fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeny View Post
    That new XT crank does look pretty nice, and it has 2 chainline options. Theoretically, to 50mm chainline version is for normal 35/142 hubs and the 53mm chainline version is for Boost 148 hubs. In reality you can use either one with a Boost setup. The 50mm chainline version will offset the chainring toward the bigger cogs a bit. If you spend most of your time in the bigger cogs, that might actually be good as the chainline would be straighter and it should result in slightly less wear.

    All minor differences and either will work fine.
    Doesn't the Fuse have a PF30 bottom bracket that is incompatible with a 24mm Shimano spindle/bb? Or would you have to use some type of adapter?
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    Quote Originally Posted by davemk View Post
    Doesn't the Fuse have a PF30 bottom bracket that is incompatible with a 24mm Shimano spindle/bb? Or would you have to use some type of adapter?
    Praxis BB is the best way to go from what i've heard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davemk View Post
    Doesn't the Fuse have a PF30 bottom bracket that is incompatible with a 24mm Shimano spindle/bb? Or would you have to use some type of adapter?
    I didn't think about that, but yes, the Fuse has a PF30 BB. There are 3 ways to use a 24mm spindle Shimano crank on a PF30 frame:

    1: You can use the standard PF30 BB already in the frame and buy adapters to fit the 24mm spindle.

    2: Install an adapter into the frame that will accept a standard threaded Shimano BB.

    3: Install a PF30 24mm complete BB. There are made by a few companies including Praxis and Wheels Manufacturing.

    If the bearings in the frame are still good, #1 would be the easiest/cheapest option.

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    Thanks for the detailed info, guys. This is exactly what I was after.

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    Got all my Deity parts in today. 35mm Cavity stem, Bladerunner pedals, and a blue ano seat clamp. Now all I need is the bike to arrive. Grrrrr................waiting sux.

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    +1 on the Ruze being kick ass, if I were buying today I would pick it over the Fuse in a heartbeat.

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    Is the decision just based on what sex you are? Fuse for a guy, Ruze for a girl?

    I just bought a women's specific bike for my girlfriend. We got a great deal so went with that bike otherwise I was recommending she stick with the men's bike for easier resale. I wasn't totally convinced on the differences between the male and female models.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid_Android View Post
    Is the decision just based on what sex you are? Fuse for a guy, Ruze for a girl?

    I just bought a women's specific bike for my girlfriend. We got a great deal so went with that bike otherwise I was recommending she stick with the men's bike for easier resale. I wasn't totally convinced on the differences between the male and female models.
    The differences between male and female bikes are in the geometry of the bike. Lower standover and other features for the girls that are more suited to an average female build. It will fit very different from a men's bike. My wife has ridden both and prefers the womens specific build more. Some don't though.

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    I have decided on the Ruze Pro for my wife in a small. I spoke to Specialized and it's 3# lighter than the expert which I consider a fair deal. And I want the bike to be a real joy to ride for my wife, even if she doesn't understand the differences.

    I hope to get an order in this week although I'm tempted to wait until the Fall 10% sale my local dealer always has.

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    The frames are the same between the two... Almost every other part on the bike is different. Drivetrain, brakes, wheels... it's literally almost everything... the saddle is the same, tires, stem and grips haha THATS IT. My wife likes the Turquoise comp, not the nicest, but i'm not complaining. It's more affordable and if she has fun that's all that matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suns_PSD View Post
    I have decided on the Ruze Pro for my wife in a small. I spoke to Specialized and it's 3# lighter than the expert which I consider a fair deal. And I want the bike to be a real joy to ride for my wife, even if she doesn't understand the differences.

    I hope to get an order in this week although I'm tempted to wait until the Fall 10% sale my local dealer always has.

    Wow, 3lbs is a lot. Plus the Pro runs 1x11, just like the Fuse Pro. The rest run 1x10.

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    Back from my first trip to the alps.
    Day one was lift supported bikepark like shredding. I love this bikes but the brakes didn't have enough bite for me. Just ordered SLX brakes. On the second day we made a "real" tour. Due to my poor fitness I would have liked a tad smaller chainring but the bikes handles well on long climbs.
    And I stumbeled over a Manitou Magnum Pro for a reasonable price, really lookin forward to this upgrade

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    Just upgraded my Fuse. Now with Magnum Pro & SLX brakes
    Can't wait to throw it on the trail tomorrow!






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    Imre...I'm interested to see how you feel the 2 forks compare. I would think the Manitou would be a noticeable improvement, but I've never ridden either. Thanks in advance.

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    I've took'em on test ride today. It's really a huge difference.The precision & traction of the front wheel was great. And even though it was raining the whole day and it was really wet, I could handle more aggressive lines than before. All in all I'm very impressed of the performance an I'll play around with the different settings over the next few rides.

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    sick bike brother !

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    LBS notified me yesterday that my Fuse Pro is in and being built. Will try and post pics and impressions once I'm on it. I do love the red on Imre's and wish that had been a color option for the pro.

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    Picked up my XL Fuse Expert today. I quickly swapped out the pedals, adjusted the fork pressure, and threw on a water bottle cage before getting a quick ride on my local trails with my boys. I like it so far, it is my backup/snow/mud/screw around with the kids bike. I was surprised that the wheels didn't feel too heavy even with the tubes still in the tires (I'll set it up tubeless tomorrow). And the bike is really playful. I think it will be a great second bike. I'll post more thoughts as I get more time on the bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davemk View Post
    I think it will be a great second bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chocolatemoeze View Post
    Why specific as a 2nd bike?


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    I think it's a bit like Flow Magazine said in their review of the Fuse:
    Who then is the bike designed for? Someone who isnít interested in racing (except maybe in the desert), someone who doesnít want the complications of a dual suspension bike, and someone who is looking for something a little bit different. It would make the perfect second bike to accompany either an XC race machine or long-travel all-mountain bike, as itís a far cry from either of these categories.
    Tested: Specialized Fuse Expert 6Fattie ? Flow Mountain Bike

    My main bike is a 2015 Santa Cruz Nomad, with a Push ElevenSix shock. I ride it everywhere and love it. I couldn't personally imagine having my Fuse as my only bike, I would feel limited. But I've been riding mountain bikes for 23 years, I also focus most of my rides on big alpine epics, or bike parks here in CO. The Fuse might make a great one quiver bike for someone new to the sport. I also only have one ride on the bike so far, so I reserve the right to change my opinion.
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    My Fuse is my second bike as well for exactly the same reasoning as davemk. I've got a StumpJumper 29er FSR as well. I just got my second ride in on the Fuse this morning and am quickly getting used to it and smiling like crazy on the downhill corners. I was also surprised that the Fuse Pro actually comes standard with the first bottle cage/EMT combo and the chain tool/chain link top cap in the headset.

    I'm still making small adjustments and figuring out shock/tire pressures but on the mostly rolling singletrack behind my house, this bike is a ton of fun. And from the look of davemk's pic, we're riding the same trails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tooberand View Post
    And from the look of davemk's pic, we're riding the same trails.
    Are you in Highlands Ranch too?
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    Yessir. Those Wildcat Mountain trails make for a good, quick ride.

    So far I've been riding tubeless at 20psi. I'm no expert at giving good feedback on the feel of a bike, but it feels like a good balance between traction and speed.

    I'm also not sure I'm sold on the 750mm wide handlebars. My full suspension is only 720mm wide and those feel like too much sometimes. I'll give it a little more, but may eventually switch to narrower bars, or take the hacksaw too them if my LBS says that's okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tooberand View Post
    Yessir. Those Wildcat Mountain trails make for a good, quick ride.

    So far I've been riding tubeless at 20psi. I'm no expert at giving good feedback on the feel of a bike, but it feels like a good balance between traction and speed.

    I'm also not sure I'm sold on the 750mm wide handlebars. My full suspension is only 720mm wide and those feel like too much sometimes. I'll give it a little more, but may eventually switch to narrower bars, or take the hacksaw too them if my LBS says that's okay.
    Interesting, I'm running the 15 psi pressure that my shop & the Flow Mag article recommended, I'm thinking about going lower down to 13 psi. I'm used to ultra wide bars (I've got 800mm bars on my Nomad) so the 750s feel fine. In my opinion you should try the bars for a while with the stock width. I bet you will like them once you get used to them, but it is all personal preference/fit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davemk View Post
    Are you in Highlands Ranch too?
    Ha, not only is the trail distinguishable... you can date it to the past week thanks to haze. Thanks California!

    Where did you get your Fuze, Bikesource? I'm trying to find a Ruze for my girlfriend but don't see any listed in inventory online, will have to make some phone calls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgarson View Post
    Where did you get your Fuze, Bikesource? I'm trying to find a Ruze for my girlfriend but don't see any listed in inventory online, will have to make some phone calls.
    Mojo Wheels. IMO they are the best shop in Denver.
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    I got mine at Bike Source. They're better than they were five years back and ultra convenient for me. Calling is always better than they're online inventory.

    I finally managed to snap a pic of mine:
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    Quote Originally Posted by tooberand View Post
    I finally managed to snap a pic of mine:
    Nice, the red looks good. How wide are the Roval rims on the Pro?
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    "Roval 650b, alloy, 38mm wide, 2Bliss Ready, 24/28h".

    Although I'm not impressed by the hubs. Do you also have the Specialized Hi Lo Disc? I spin my front wheel and it stops after 10 seconds.

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    The expert comes with the Stout hubs, which aren't very impressive either. They have very slow engagement, but spin okay. I went with the Expert since I knew I was going to be riding it in the snow, and wanted the wider rims. But, everything else on your Pro looks so much nicer.
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    I originally had an older Niner Air 9 (Scandium) for riding the HR trails. It was a lot of fun and the bike could fly. However, the frame cracked back in May and that's when I put in the order for the Fuse to take its place. I typically get Comp or Expert level, however, the amount of upgrades in the Pro seemed atypically generous for what Specialized normally does: Fork, wheels, brakes, drivetrain, SWAT accessories, seat post. Plus it had a nicer gearing selection for those days where my legs just don't have it. I'm not sure why they went with narrower rims on the Pro, but with my lack of technical skills, I'm pretty sure I won't notice the difference.

    I do like your "Hyper" color on your expert. The more bold the better in my opinion.

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    So I took the Fuse out for a "real" ride yesterday, and I have to say the traction is unbelievable. My ride was 12 miles on blown out sandy trail with 1900 ft of climbing and descending. The bike was really fun. I converted the wheels to a tubeless setup, which is a must on this bike. Those fat tubes are really heavy, I immediately felt a difference in performance with the lower rolling weight. I was running about 15 psi up front, and 18 in the back. The traction was incredible, I was climbing steep loose sections out of the saddle and the tire never slipped. It almost felt like riding slickrock in Moab, where you are only limited by your legs, not traction.
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    Sounds great! Which trail?

    I picked up a gauge yesterday which will allow me to accurately set the lower pressure in my tires since the floor pump gauge wasn't very accommodating for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tooberand View Post
    Sounds great! Which trail?

    I picked up a gauge yesterday which will allow me to accurately set the lower pressure in my tires since the floor pump gauge wasn't very accommodating for that.
    Out and back at Indian Creek from the Sedalia side up the singletrack to ringtail down ringtail to swallow tail and back. That trail is really overgrown and sandy from all the heat, but it was a great test for the Fuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davemk View Post
    Those fat tubes are really heavy, I immediately felt a difference in performance with the lower rolling weight.
    Is it not using a regular 27.5" tube? I thought that was the only option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nemesis256 View Post
    Is it not using a regular 27.5" tube? I thought that was the only option.
    It's stamped 650Bx2.3-3.0 so it could be considered "regular" but it is the heaviest non-fatbike tube I've every picked up.
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    Converting mine to tubeless this weekend (have been putting it off for a while). Good to know there's some real weight to be saved.

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    Took one of these out for a demo yesterday. It was hard to evaluate the traction, as it was a wet leaf riding surface, but there were a couple occasions where I could tell that I was saved by the fattish tires. I'm sold on the plus tire. What was a deal-breaker for me was the low bottom bracket. It wasn't just rock gardens where I was pedal striking, it was any sharp-change to a steep ramp. It was worse than my 1996 Stumpjumper - on account of the longer cranks and the squishy tires. I would expect this issue out of companies rushing to convert a FS 29er frame to 27.5+, as the BB drop on the existing front triangle, but to design a wholly new frame like this is mystifying to me.

    It was definitely a fun bike overall, but there are large sections of my favorite trails that became unridable for this strangely designed spec. I'm going to have to wait on the next batch of +bikes to come along (and maybe check-out the Stache in the meantime).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paranoid_Android View Post
    Converting mine to tubeless this weekend (have been putting it off for a while). Good to know there's some real weight to be saved.
    How did you like the change? Running a taller gear now? Any improvement to traction/tracking, as you gain flexibility to tweak the tire pressures?

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    Quote Originally Posted by phride View Post
    How did you like the change? Running a taller gear now? Any improvement to traction/tracking, as you gain flexibility to tweak the tire pressures?

    I've been too sick to ride The conversion was a breeze though! The rims came pre-taped and ready to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phride View Post
    Took one of these out for a demo yesterday. It was hard to evaluate the traction, as it was a wet leaf riding surface, but there were a couple occasions where I could tell that I was saved by the fattish tires. I'm sold on the plus tire. What was a deal-breaker for me was the low bottom bracket. It wasn't just rock gardens where I was pedal striking, it was any sharp-change to a steep ramp. It was worse than my 1996 Stumpjumper - on account of the longer cranks and the squishy tires. I would expect this issue out of companies rushing to convert a FS 29er frame to 27.5+, as the BB drop on the existing front triangle, but to design a wholly new frame like this is mystifying to me.

    It was definitely a fun bike overall, but there are large sections of my favorite trails that became unridable for this strangely designed spec. I'm going to have to wait on the next batch of +bikes to come along (and maybe check-out the Stache in the meantime).
    Hello. I am interested in purchasing the Fuse Comp. I was able to demo it for a good three hours and pretty technical terrain and had a blast. I am curious about Bottom Bracket height and how much higher it should be and how much better it could be if it was higher. I did have some trouble going over some logs but that I would say was my riding ability. I had no trouble over rock gardens. Would the Stache be much different? I would like to see one in person and demo if possible but right now no local bike shops have them in stock and may just bring them in if customers orders one only. Any insight would be appreciated as I have been riding road the last few years with exception of borrowing a mountain bike once or twice in the fall/winter. I would like to supplement my road riding this winter with a hardtail plus size mountain bike and the Fuse Comp seems like a decent value/ price at $1,600.

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    BB Height

    Trek 29+ 313 mm

    Cannondale Beast Of The East 27.5+ 309 mm

    Specialized 27.5+ 305.5 mm

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    I rented the Trek Stache 7 29+ three times (2+ hour rides) before I bought the Fuse Comp. Why? I'm a big 29er fan and thought I would prefer the 29er +. Nope, it was super fast on the downhill, but slow up hill and slow around tight corners (think Monster truck with 30.6" real tire size).

    I rode the Fuse on the street in front of the Bike shop and knew within the first 100' feet this was the bike for me.

    Fast and nimble in the flats and downhill and a very good climber. It will go through chunky rocky areas like no other bike I've had. (15 rides so far)

    I can't say enough positive about this bike. Yes, at $1,600 its a very good value.

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    Low pressure gauge $9 (1-15#) I run 14 front & 15 rear for now

    Over time I will upgrade more as more plus size parts hit the market

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    Quote Originally Posted by phride View Post
    What was a deal-breaker for me was the low bottom bracket. It wasn't just rock gardens where I was pedal striking, it was any sharp-change to a steep ramp.
    I don't know how much experience you have with current bikes with "modern" geometry, but the long, low, & slack geometry is here to stay and low bottom brackets are a key part of the geo. For example, my Santa Cruz Nomad has a 340mm bb height on a 165 mm travel bike. I'm less than 300mm when sagged. This is essentially the same as the Fuse. I highly doubt that you will find a new bike with a much higher bb, but I could be wrong. The good thing is you can adjust to riding with the lower bb height pretty quickly.
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    Funny, it's all a matter of perspective. I'm coming from a XC bike, so what we view as sluggish/nimble differs. I found the Fuse a little sluggish around tight corners, but not so much that a change in riding style (i.e., setting-up my turns better/different) wouldn't fix that in 9 out of 10 spots. It definitely seems a better value than the Stache, but that is an altogether different animal. The Fuse did incredibly well in the rock gardens through which I could carry speed without having to pedal constantly, so much so that jumbled, rocky descents that would make a mess of me on a FS 29er, I glided through without even thinking about the dropper post on the Fuse. Unfortunately, the low BB made it a step backwards on my favorite climbs, so I'm going to wait to see if some of the newer 27.5+ bikes hit the mark for me. The 6Fattie FSR is next in line. Unspung, it's nominally 1-inch taller at the BB, but a chunk of that will get eaten up under weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phride View Post
    The 6Fattie FSR is next in line. Unspung, it's nominally 1-inch taller at the BB, but a chunk of that will get eaten up under weight.
    I would expect the additional bb drop on 135mm FS bike to be somewhere around 30-40mm depending on the bike and how much sag you like. So the 6Fattie FSR might have a lower effective bb height.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnD View Post
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    Trek 29+ 313 mm

    Cannondale Beast Of The East 27.5+ 309 mm

    Specialized 27.5+ 305.5 mm

    Is it me or are the BB heights between the Fuse (305.5mm) and Stache (313mm) miniminal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob T View Post
    Is it me or are the BB heights between the Fuse (305.5mm) and Stache (313mm) miniminal?
    Sounds (in agreement with davemk's post) from the reviews like the SJ FSR 6Fattie is in the same boat. That said, folks have been converting their 29ers to 27.5+ for the better part of a year now, and they are probably not that much higher once the smaller diameter, squishier tire is factored-in. The Stache & Fuse just look worse because they don't need to account for as much sag as the FS bikes.

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    The fuse bb is only 4.5 mm lower than my rockhopper 29. I have virtually zero pedals strikes on that rockhopper with 175mm cranks.
    I may be wrong but I think the lower bb comes from the slacker head tube angle , not sure.


    It won't be long before somebody will come along on mtbr with a 140mm on their Fuse. looking forward to that report...

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnD View Post
    The fuse bb is only 4.5 mm lower than my rockhopper 29. I have virtually zero pedals strikes on that rockhopper with 175mm cranks.
    I may be wrong but I think the lower bb comes from the slacker head tube angle , not sure.
    The real difference comes when you sit on the bike and the 12psi rear tire that you'd be running sags a centimeter or more.

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    my brother just picked up an expert in large .. it's pretty effin sweet .. lots of tire clearance

    I like the new Specy droppers .. they work great

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    his came with Scrapers too .. not Roval

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob T View Post
    Is it me or are the BB heights between the Fuse (305.5mm) and Stache (313mm) miniminal?
    The Stache at 313 is the rigid. The Stache with the manitou fork is listed at 329. So it's almost an inch higher comparing the trek v spec models with front suspension.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rushman3 View Post
    I rented the Trek Stache 7 29+ three times (2+ hour rides) before I bought the Fuse Comp. Why? I'm a big 29er fan and thought I would prefer the 29er +. Nope, it was super fast on the downhill, but slow up hill and slow around tight corners (think Monster truck with 30.6" real tire size).
    The Fuse has a longer wheelbase than the Stache.

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    I took my Fuse for a spin around the neighbourhood last night and blew the rear tyre off the rim doing a small bunnyhop off a gutter. I had 20PSI in the tyres, too. I'm not sure how well these will work for me without tubes

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    I've gone tubeless on mine and am running 15 in front and 16 in back. Mine has been solid so far going off one foot drops as well as going on the green downhill runs at Keystone (which I must say was a blast). 20 seems high and more likely to have blow out issues. I'm also on the Roval rims, but I'm not sure how much of a difference that makes.

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    20PSI is just what I was running last night because I was riding pavement. I normally run much lower. I'm pretty damn heavy, too.

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    Wow... I'm 205 lbs, I've been running 15 psi front & back tubeless for the last month on the scrapper rims. I've be riding on some pretty chunky trails with 2-3 foot drops with good landings. I haven't even burped my tires yet. I've bee shocked at how solid the wheels have been.

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    I'm 70pounds heavier than you. Very tall.

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    just picked up a fuse pro, have three rides on it. I weigh 220# and am running 17psi in the rear and 16-15psi in the front. I feel I need to run about 17.5psi in the rear maybe. this bike rides more like a 29er than a 27.5. I am trying to find the new edge of the cornering envelope, its pretty dry here so I am taking it slow. Fun bike so far!

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    Quote Originally Posted by crashedupderby View Post
    just picked up a fuse pro, have three rides on it. I weigh 220# and am running 17psi in the rear and 16-15psi in the front. I feel I need to run about 17.5psi in the rear maybe. this bike rides more like a 29er than a 27.5. I am trying to find the new edge of the cornering envelope, its pretty dry here so I am taking it slow. Fun bike so far!
    pics or it didn't happen !

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    congrats !

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    Just ordered my wife a Ruze Comp for Christmas. My LBS snagged one out of the October shipment just in case they sell out, they'll use it as a display bike til Christmas.

    My wife has zero riding experience except for when was a kid, but lately she expressed interest in riding with me and the kids (6 y.o. who trail rides with me and a 3 y.o. who is about to move up to a Spawn Furi). This *may* be overkill, but she can grow into it, plus there isn't anything I'd upgrade compared to like a Jynx or a Jett, plus it is 1x, I see no point in teaching her 2x like on the Jynx when 1x is taking over.

    Side note: In Spring I'm taking delivery of a Stumpy FSR Carbon Comp 6fattie, and that has the narrower rims, so I can swap wheels with her bike if we, you know, think the wider wheels are better for my Stumpy
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    I'm considering on for a jump bike, looks good on paper, anyone take one to a jump park?

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    Specialized Fuse 6Fattie

    After I converted mine to tubeless I did a small gutter jump and blew the rear tyre off the rim. Turns out I stretched and damaged the bead. Nothing bad looking but not it won't hold air tubeless so I have to go back to using tubes in the rear or buying a $100 tyre. Even pressing lightly on on the bead sends fluid squirmy out everywhere. Disappointed I'll try Maxxis Chronicle next.

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    Will a 3.5 fit ?

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    Tech, maybe in the front, for sure not the rear.

    PS. I went tubeless and is a really easy to convert and no problems so far

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    Thx rushman3,wider front is a good combo! just purchased a Fuse! I was torn going full fat but here on Eastern Pa snow is funky and was looking at 4" max, really want more for more dirt and should do ok on some snow conditions as well. the geometry is spot on for my needs!!!

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    Tech, I plan on putting a wider tire on the front and after checking all the products announced at Interbike, there are many new 27.5+ tires coming out soon.

    I went tubeless and at the moment running 14# rear and 13# front (my wt.195#). Needed a new gauge that went between 0-15#. Its amazing I can feel 1/2# difference in tire pressure riding.

    The Ground Controls are really good and low cost ($55) and when they are available at the Specialized web site, I will pick up some Purgatory 27.5 x 3.00 tires.

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    rushman,were at same weight,what is your overall impression so far on the Fuse? Pannaracer has a 3.5 .

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    Should be going to the bike park soon. With a fuse pro .. will report back

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    Bought the Comp with RF Turbine cranks and 30t NW chainring plus Xt plus rear derail and saint shifter for a swinging deal,already set up tubeless. Will see how I like the Suntour fork and maybe upgrade that. Will see also about tektro brakes get mixed reviews about them.

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    Tec, The stock brakes are Ok, very usable, but will upgrade to XT with time.

    The Ground controls work well here in Tahoe and Bend Oregon, where its dry, dusty with some rock gardens. On dirt they stick like glue. Prepare to use your brakes a lot less, I keep pushing the speed into cruves and it feels like a slot car railing at speed.

    As I get to know the bike, its more fun with every new ride.

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    Specialized Fuse 6Fattie

    Here's a few more photos of my Fuse Expert. I've converted the wheels to tubeless with Stan's valves/fluid (very happy the rims came pre-taped!), added Shimano Saint M820 brakes with 203mm/180mm IceTech rotors, super wide Enve carbon riser bar, 70mm Syntace Megaforce 2 stem, Ergon GE1 grips, RaceFace crank boots, XTR Race pedals, Specialized IR Command Post with the lever from a KS LEV, Thomson seatpost clamp, Specialized SWAT Zee-cage with tool, Specialised Top Cap Chain Tool, Titanium hardware throughout. Regreased and properly tensioned the rear wheel bearings which came so tight they wouldn't turn at all.




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    How does sizing fit with everyone! I just purchased a mediun fom a chap used who is 6'2 with 32" inseam,I have same inseam but am 5" 11. he said large felt to big.I had a 2013 Camber Evo also in medium,generally I run large frames.Specialized seems to run their sizing bigger then other bike .companies .

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    I like the large .. am 6-1 with 31" inseam

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    Pics of rear tire clearance please and front with Suntour fork.

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    Oh here's the weight. This is with a tube in the rear as I damaged the bead and it won't run tubeless for now. A little heavier than I originally thought but plenty light for a XXL.

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