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    Quote Originally Posted by EBG 18T View Post
    Typical.

    Pfft! When I left there wasn't any snow it the damn state! Now my sister's mowing her 300' driveway. Serves her right!
    And Sarge and the Mayor have been out daily 2-3 hours each! I'm loving the ride.

    Pfft! No snow for GFBD and I get outta Dodge and the shyt shows up! :/ I can't wait to ride a pair of 5.05's with really low air pressure.


    Quote Originally Posted by grizzler View Post
    You made the right choice hitting the desert with Sarge, especially Cat Mtn!
    Sarge and the Mayor are havin a great time here in the southern hemisphere of Arizona. 78 warm shorts n jersey degrees and a 2 hour ride for each bike. Little bastards are spoiled rotten!

    Griz, you got that straight!

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    Here's Sarge having a good time.

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    A Mayor living the life!

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    Looks like your having fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy.Ford View Post
    I would suggest a Fox Transfer, they also make an external and 150mm drop. I have one on my RSD Mayor fat bike. Been awesome for the 6months I've had it. Good luck with your build.

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    So my build is coming along and fuuuuuk this thing has a long seat tube (470 on the med). I am cutting it very close for a 3" gravity dropper which needs 159mm of post showing; I think a Fox is outta the question as the externally routed one needs 174mm of post showing (100mm drop)... with a 470mm seatpost and 175mm cranks that's like a little over 32 inches. I'm around 5'9 and that ain't happenin.

    I was kind of torn between these posts because the kashima and the blue looks so badass at the front of the bike and the Transfer seems to be getting good reviews. But, the GD is bombproof and light and I will still easily get behind the seat @ 3 inches.

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    How would 26x3.8 fit? I don't like the height of 27.5x3.8
    I like 'em long, low, slack and playful

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    Hokie, I'd say they might be an issue. Having the 27.5 maxxis in hand and it's grossly narrower than, say, a Knard 26x3.8.

    I find the 27.5 to be as nimble and fun as my 13 26" bikes...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    Hokie, I'd say they might be an issue. Having the 27.5 maxxis in hand and it's grossly narrower than, say, a Knard 26x3.8.

    I find the 27.5 to be as nimble and fun as my 13 26" bikes...
    Have the ability to measure width? Both casing and knob for the Maxxis on a 50mm 27.5 rim?

    I've got Surly Rabbit Hole 50mm 26+ rims and a Surly Nate 3.8 as well as a On One Floater 4.0 that I can measure to compare against the 27.5 3.8" Maxxis/50mm rim combo.
    I like 'em long, low, slack and playful

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    Just ordered a Sergeant. BTW RSD has 35% off their 2016 bikes other than the fat bikes. Alex said it should ship today. Going to go ss with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HughMann View Post
    Just ordered a Sergeant. BTW RSD has 35% off their 2016 bikes other than the fat bikes. Alex said it should ship today. Going to go ss with it.
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    Really trying to behave and not order one of these until I sell off my road bike. Good thing the discount doesn't apply to the titanium bikes. Wife would be pissed at my lack of self control

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    Quote Originally Posted by HughMann View Post
    Just ordered a Sergeant. BTW RSD has 35% off their 2016 bikes other than the fat bikes. Alex said it should ship today. Going to go ss with it.
    There's a few peeps running SS with theirs and loving it. "SS makes you strong fast". (courtesy of StokliBoy)

    Quote Originally Posted by 06HokieMTB View Post
    Have the ability to measure width? Both casing and knob for the Maxxis on a 50mm 27.5 rim?

    I've got Surly Rabbit Hole 50mm 26+ rims and a Surly Nate 3.8 as well as a On One Floater 4.0 that I can measure to compare against the 27.5 3.8" Maxxis/50mm rim combo.
    I've to date never measured a tire bead to bead, only mounted and inflated to my favorite pressure. Needless to say, I'll mount em up on i45's and get you a measurement.

    Quote Originally Posted by MinesPunk View Post
    Really trying to behave and not order one of these until I sell off my road bike. Good thing the discount doesn't apply to the titanium bikes. Wife would be pissed at my lack of self control

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    Don't wait too long cause that is an opportunity you would not wanna miss out on...When the 2016's are gone, they're gone and so is that lovely 35% discount. Shipping is included with the sale price and no sales tax is another bonus, just sayin'.
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    Anyone that tried running the 3.8's have problem with rubbing? The front works like a charm but the rear is rubbing on one side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    I've to date never measured a tire bead to bead, only mounted and inflated to my favorite pressure. Needless to say, I'll mount em up on i45's and get you a measurement.

    Thanks (and sorry!). I was asking mounted dimensions, width for knob & casing. Not the b2b.
    Does anyone look at the chainstays and go Dang! Look at how much shorter they could've been? (Remove the part highlighted in yellow)

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    I haven't found a need. Sarge is playful enough...

    Skiffer, is the slider all the way back?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    I haven't found a need. Sarge is playful enough...

    Skiffer, is the slider all the way back?

    Thanks, you nailed it. Moved the slider back and I have the clearance I need. Can't wait to try this thing in the mountains tomorrow.

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    Sarge looks funny wearing his 3.8's but rides well. 6 psi f, 8 psi rear and away we go! Feels slightly different but the ride is good.

    Playtime mode = 3.8's, dirt race mode = Rocket Ron 3.0 LiteSkin's 9 psi f, 11 psi rear for a beanpole to ride the fun ride.

    I love my Sarge, he's the fun ripper that doesn't know he's not a BMX at times! Hmm, BMX bars...

    Glad you sorted that fit issue, now you can go play in the sand box with your friend!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skiffer709 View Post
    Anyone that tried running the 3.8's have problem with rubbing? The front works like a charm but the rear is rubbing on one side.
    While I don't own a Sarge, I've often thought RSD could improve that junction somehow, as it does seem needlessly large. Although, it's quite possible it was done to accommodate chainring clearance. Maybe Alex will chime in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 06HokieMTB View Post
    Have the ability to measure width? Both casing and knob for the Maxxis on a 50mm 27.5 rim?

    I've got Surly Rabbit Hole 50mm 26+ rims and a Surly Nate 3.8 as well as a On One Floater 4.0 that I can measure to compare against the 27.5 3.8" Maxxis/50mm rim combo.
    Measured at an overinflated 20 psi... 90.3mm at the edge of the treads which are wrapped around the side of the tire nicely. The casing is not wider than the tread on these which is required for my interest in any tire.

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy.Ford View Post
    While I don't own a Sarge, I've often thought RSD could improve that junction somehow, as it does seem needlessly large. Although, it's quite possible it was done to accommodate chainring clearance. Maybe Alex will chime in.
    Guess I'm gonna have to say it!! It's primarily for chainring clearance. Lest ya wanna run a 26t or smaller. This is due to the clearance for a 3.8 to stuff in there and actually work. Others have mentioned the CS length, I find that I can float the front end exceptionally easily with the slider set to the center and manny's and wheelies are done by telepathy with Sarge. Getting up on the rear wheel is almost as though I'm riding my Red Sky. CS length can be fickle when the rest of the frame is ignored over the CS measurement itself. It defies conventional thinking is the fact of riding a Sergeant.


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    I purchased Sarge with BB height and seat tube angle in the real world based on the A/C of the installed fork after having a week with the bike and daily shakedown rides that involved various trail conditions and proper observed trials. I took Sarge on the trip to JunkTown so that after his adoption he could experience 18 Road, Mary's loop, Horsethief as well as Tabeguache in it's entirety. Yes, it was an all day affair on the trails.
    If I make the trip to JunkTown, two bikes are going along... Worthy destination, indeed!
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    Only two rides so far, but this bike is fun as hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzy Dunlop01 View Post
    Only two rides so far, but this bike is fun as hell.

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    You're gonna really enjoy the Sergeant. I love mine cause of how playful a bike Sarge is. Can't get enough...
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    Mine should be here today. I am going to order the single speed stuff soon.

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    Hugh, Stop hovering at the front door!

    Can't wait for the pix and ride reports to come in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    Hugh, Stop hovering at the front door!

    Can't wait for the pix and ride reports to come in.
    Ride report will have to wait as the trails around here are utter garbage right now. Most are closed or are asking you not to ride as it has been really wet and raining every couple days it seems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    Hugh, Stop hovering at the front door!
    Quote Originally Posted by HughMann View Post
    Ride report will have to wait as the trails around here are utter garbage right now. Most are closed or are asking you not to ride as it has been really wet and raining every couple days it seems.
    human don't be that guy cuz you'll have the couch next to the front door..@@
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    Quote Originally Posted by HughMann View Post
    Ride report will have to wait as the trails around here are utter garbage right now. Most are closed or are asking you not to ride as it has been really wet and raining every couple days it seems.
    No excuses! There's always the rip around the neighborhood to enjoy your new bike. I run errands with mine regularly cause it's fun to ride the fat.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    No excuses! There's always the rip around the neighborhood to enjoy your new bike. I run errands with mine regularly cause it's fun to ride the fat.


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    waiting for the single speed stuff now. and the pedals.
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    Sarge doesn't like that pic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    Sarge doesn't like that pic.
    No disassemble!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nvphatty View Post
    booo whoooo, wwwwwhhhhhhaaaaaa
    Punkin's not too fond of that one either!!
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    need to assemble it and then find a solution to pack it to take to Wisconsin in may. Likely Bikeflights in the rsd box it came in.

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    Aviating a bike can be absurd in price. I completely understand the need to take your bike with ya. I rarely travel without one or more of my bikes being involved. Gotta love it when you can break out your own bike as opposed to a rental.
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    That's why I bought a Pika Pack works bag a few years back. When I check it in I say it's sporting equipment or a massage table. Never had to pay a bike fee since and with how airlines screw us on the regular I don't lose any sleep over it.

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    Baggage handlers are like a bull in a china shop. An Anvil case sounds more in order for the well being of a bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    Baggage handlers are like a bull in a china shop. An Anvil case sounds more in order for the well being of a bike.
    That's what I was worried about at first. I have over 40 flights on this bag with steel, aluminum, carbon and ti bikes, no damage to Amy of them so far. That being said I do always wonder when something will happen

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    Hardcore insurance is a must! I'm overprotective of my bikes cause they are hard to afford in the first place, so yeah homeowners insurance policy can be of assistance tho'. Worth checking with your insurance carrier just in case.
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    I know at least for my policy, it only covers them at home.

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    Time to shop around cause my insurance does cover away issues. And a Sergeant worth protection...
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    Quote Originally Posted by HughMann View Post
    need to assemble it and then find a solution to pack it to take to Wisconsin in may. Likely Bikeflights in the rsd box it came in.
    I usually prefer to ship it UPS to a local shop where I'll be visiting than to take on a plane with me. Just another suggestion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy.Ford View Post
    I usually prefer to ship it UPS to a local shop where I'll be visiting than to take on a plane with me. Just another suggestion.

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    yea bikeflights shipping it from my house to my friends house is only like $60 round trip so that is looking like the best option..

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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    Time to shop around cause my insurance does cover away issues. And a Sergeant worth protection...
    Are you sure it would cover 100% replacement cost? If so, mind if I ask who you have your insurance through?

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    You'll be asked for receipts on the bike and its equipped parts.. Farmers insurance co. I have the same policy as a close friend that had filed a claim on a stolen bike and in less than a week had received payment.
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    RSD Sergeant thread (Pix are appreciated)-luzooir.jpgHere it is at the moment, It is my first bike i am building myself so i am taking my time.

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    Hugh, that gives new meaning to "paraplegic"!
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    i really need to get a bike work stand. it was a pita getting it that far without one.

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    Toss the seat/seatpost in and turn it upside down, go to work. You'll even be able to dial in the rear derailleur.
    Wheels go in nice and easy too...
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    i meant for putting the fork/bearings/stem on

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    Quote Originally Posted by HughMann View Post
    i meant for putting the fork/bearings/stem on
    Agreed. Although I have done that work using my car rack. A work stand does make it much easier but the car rack will also work in a pinch

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    Quote Originally Posted by HughMann View Post
    i meant for putting the fork/bearings/stem on
    The headset was pressed before delivery, no? Come on, get that thing built up cause everyone in the thread wantsta ride it!
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    i mean getting the bearings on the fork and the stem on while the bike is not secured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HughMann View Post
    i mean getting the bearings on the fork and the stem on while the bike is not secured.
    don't mind these fuggahs any just do your thang.
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    I see how it is! We get to ride it when it's done and you're not helping our cause!


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    New Sergeant owner here in Ontario. Feast your eyes on this bike porn.


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    oh man that's a beauty!
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    RSD Sergeant thread (Pix are appreciated)

    Sarge's cousin makes the sergeant thread! Gratz Bric!


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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    Sarge's cousin makes the sergeant thread! Gratz Bric!


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    you best find better bait than that troller.
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    here it is now. all i have to do is put the chain on and set the rear dropout length.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HughMann View Post
    here it is now. all i have to do is put the chain on and set the rear dropout length.
    dig them orange pedals human since i have the same..now for a orange seat post clamp and maybe stem spacers would be wild.
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    Well, I gave up. I put my deposit on a 2017 a couple months ago, but then RSD had to go have a 35% off sale. Not to mention reading all your posts and looking at all these pictures... Now my 2016 is in the mail! I haven't ridden one yet, but I got to believe this is one of the best bike deals ever...
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    Quote Originally Posted by HughMann View Post
    here it is now. all i have to do is put the chain on and set the rear dropout length.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tjstlouis View Post
    We'll, I gave up. I put my deposit on a 2017 a couple months ago, but then RSD had to go have a 35% off sale. Not to mention reading all your posts and looking at all these pictures... Now my 2016 is in the mail! I haven't ridden one yet, but I got to believe this is one of the best bike deals ever...
    TJ, you're gonna love it! Gratz, Dood!!


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    it also seems like i can only fit a 75mm dropper post. 130-135ishmm of post showing

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    it also seems like i can only fit a 75mm dropper post. 130-135ishmm of post showing
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    We can throw ya on a rack and stretch em...

    I rarely ride with full extension since I play too much to make it useful. Perhaps you can ride with the seat down some for the majority of playing and just slam it when needed. Also trying to keep Sarge svelte.
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    I had the same problem. Got a gravity dropper, removed boot.

    Looks good, light, durable as fvck. 3 inches is plenty (ha!)

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    ^^Gravity Dropper here sans boot for over two years, no issues. Love my GD.

    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    You'll be asked for receipts on the bike and its equipped parts.. Farmers insurance co. I have the same policy as a close friend that had filed a claim on a stolen bike and in less than a week had received payment.
    Ah, thank you sir. I'm going to check into that then. Great looking bikes BTW, if I didn't already have too many....

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    Quote Originally Posted by HPIguy View Post
    ^^Gravity Dropper here sans boot for over two years, no issues. Love my GD.

    Ah, thank you sir. I'm going to check into that then. Great looking bikes BTW, if I didn't already have too many....
    You're welcome. I'm still on the fence with dropper posts. Another note, you don't have enough of em if there isn't 2 in each room of the house.
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    Three in the house, four in the garage along with two motorcycles. And, Farmers doesn't offer coverage in my area. I'll never be without a dropper again. Takes a little getting used to, but becomes second nature just like shifting. My favorite thing is lowering just slightly for technical terrain so I can splay my knees out for balance. Even both my single speeds have dropper posts. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by HPIguy View Post
    Three in the house, four in the garage along with two motorcycles. And, Farmers doesn't offer coverage in my area. I'll never be without a dropper again. Takes a little getting used to, but becomes second nature just like shifting. My favorite thing is lowering just slightly for technical terrain so I can splay my knees out for balance. Even both my single speeds have dropper posts. LOL
    Raise the question with local insurers. It's worth a little piece of mind.
    I use platform pedals so I can do balance checks without any drama. I need to check out the various options in droppers cause those that I experienced while on the +crusade had slop in em and that was a deal breaker. I know the latest crop has improved.

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    I have, they want ridiculous rates to insure my bikes away from home. The most reasonable option I've found, is velosurance at about $400 a year for 100% coverage.

    I ride platforms as well, don't care for being clipped in while riding technical stuff, but to each their own. My Gravity Dropper has a tiny bit of slop in it, but that's after over two years of riding with a Clyde plopped down on it, and it's not noticeable while riding it. And I can simply order a new bushing to fix it, and install it myself easily.

    No Sarge, recently got a 29+ though and I'm really digging it. Love the look of the Sarge though. I have a really hard time ordering bikes in the blind anymore, I need to ride one first.

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    Excited to see 3.8 Minions fit front & back on the '16. Does anyone know if these will fit with Pike on the '17?

    Only 'issue' I may have is I'm unsure about the reach. I'm 5'9" and my two bikes have 425 and 428 reach in 'M'. Even 'L' RSD is still shorter. Last winter I was super excited about the orange rigid Mayor, liked specs, price, aesthetics, but at the LBS they insisted to put me on 'M' and I knew right away it won't work for me. I'm afraid I'll have the same issue with Sergeant. I will have to find out somewhere where I can test ride it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HPIguy View Post
    ^^Gravity Dropper here sans boot for over two years, no issues. Love my GD.
    I'm already thinking of adding a dropper post on mine. Gravity Dropper looks to be the king of reliability, does it work well on muddy rides without the boot?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kryten View Post
    Excited to see 3.8 Minions fit front & back on the '16. Does anyone know if these will fit with Pike on the '17?

    Only 'issue' I may have is I'm unsure about the reach. I'm 5'9" and my two bikes have 425 and 428 reach in 'M'. Even 'L' RSD is still shorter. Last winter I was super excited about the orange rigid Mayor, liked specs, price, aesthetics, but at the LBS they insisted to put me on 'M' and I knew right away it won't work for me. I'm afraid I'll have the same issue with Sergeant. I will have to find out somewhere where I can test ride it.
    There's two things goin on here, numbers on paper and numbers in the real world. My large feels nicely long and has a 70mm stem with 800mm 25mm rise Loaded AMX bar. If you contact alex and he makes arrangements with the LBS to get one for you to throw a leg over, you will be pleasantly surprised. As for the LBS trying to force a M down your throat, stand your ground. I'm 6' even (without considering shrinkage due to scoliosis) with long ass arms, so 800mm bars are the cat's meow. Luckily, Alex made arrangements for Sarge to go out on a week long test ride. It was da bomb! The end of the week arrived and I adopted a shiny new blue bike. Aaannnddd continue to bring him trinkets! Today's trinket, blue valve stems and tubes out, stems in and pumped up with the Lezyne micro drive HV. NN's are holding air nicely without sealant. 5 minutes a wheel, very pleased, indeed! Now, if brown Santa would hurry up and deliver my orange chainring!

    Bric, why not keep the boot in place to keep the dropper mint? Curiosity...
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    Cuz it's fugly

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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    Bric, why not keep the boot in place to keep the dropper mint? Curiosity...
    Just wondering how people see it hold up without the boot. I would have liked to get the Race Face / 9point8 post (mechanical locking mechanism) but RSD didn't think to include stealth cable routing. Oh well.
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    Lots of discussion on the GD sans boot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzy Dunlop01 View Post
    Cuz it's fugly

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    I bought a used GD this summer for my winter bike and it came without a boot. Previous owner said he ran it without issues that way. I picked up a boot for $5 and use it with one. Overall, happy with the post. When I first saw one I was turned off by the looks, but now I actually like it, just looks functional and it certainly is. Imho it actually looks perfect on an aggro industrial bike such as sergeant.

    Either way from my prior quick research, it should be fine without.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    There's two things goin on here, numbers on paper and numbers in the real world. My large feels nicely long and has a 70mm stem with 800mm 25mm rise Loaded AMX bar. If you contact alex and he makes arrangements with the LBS to get one for you to throw a leg over, you will be pleasantly surprised. As for the LBS trying to force a M down your throat, stand your ground. I'm 6' even (without considering shrinkage due to scoliosis) with long ass arms, so 800mm bars are the cat's meow. Luckily, Alex made arrangements for Sarge to go out on a week long test ride. It was da bomb! The end of the week arrived and I adopted a shiny new blue bike. Aaannnddd continue to bring him trinkets! Today's trinket, blue valve stems and tubes out, stems in and pumped up with the Lezyne micro drive HV. NN's are holding air nicely without sealant. 5 minutes a wheel, very pleased, indeed! Now, if brown Santa would hurry up and deliver my orange chainring!

    Bric, why not keep the boot in place to keep the dropper mint? Curiosity...
    2017 is about perfect spec wise provided it fits me well, it would have to be L, can't imagine being cramped on a M. '17 has 760/50 cockpit and '16 has 720/70. From the chart does not appear top tube is longer on the '17 so is it safe to assume, '17 is actually slightly shorter in reach then? Yes, wider bar will compensate some. I'm ok swapping with swapping to 60mm stem.

    '16 is an amazing deal, but would want to make some changes from stock spec, while '17 is spot on. I like the slacker HTA.

    The only question apart from fit is if Pike fits 3.8s. I'm guessing it may not and probably nobody had a chance to try yet. Then again, Pike is highly regarded and with a bit of luck could be traded for boost Fox 34 or sold/bought for minimal loss? Would that be reasonable to assume? Also someone here could maybe entertain working out an upgrade to Pike from Magnum?...
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    The two changes in geometry are HT angle and BB drop. As for the Pike, Alex?? Car 54, Alex???
    I gotta say, I love the 16 and 17. I'm eyeballing a Wildcat at the moment cause there's an opening for a full squish and Turner isn't making a +squish yet. Dave cut me offa custom frames too, stick in the mud!

    Sarge is hanging out with blue valve stems and tubeless Nobby Nic's. Holding air without sealant, not too shabby. I'll take him out on a trail tomorrow for a shakedown. Seems so easy and reliable with the Scraper i45's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikin' Bric View Post
    I'm already thinking of adding a dropper post on mine. Gravity Dropper looks to be the king of reliability, does it work well on muddy rides without the boot?
    Dunno, our trails don't hold up to riding them when muddy. But I've been caught mid ride by storms and it's gotten filthy and has held up fine.

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    I'm getting really serious about pulling the trigger on a Ti Sergeant but having a hard time without throwing a leg over one. I talked to Alex today and he was great! He answered all my questions, but the 72degree seat angle still worries me. With such a slack front end I was thinking about trying a fork in the 120-140 range. It's hard to calculate because the Geo chart on their website is based on 550mm fork with no sag. So a 140mm with 20% sag would bring the HT=67.8 ST= 73.3 and the BB at -55. Thinks looks great for me on paper, but only if I'm reading there chart correctly and I didn't Fat finger my math. Thoughts?

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    jp, you can only do Fat finger math in the fatbike forum... :/
    Were you not able to get a demo arranged with a LBS?

    I really can't blame ya for being on the fence with it. After all, a major purchase.

    Interesting that you are the opposite of me. I have my seat slammed all the way back and love it. It has no effect on climbing for the most part and when it gets steep I ride forward on the seat. Thankful for the trailmaster DT having a soft wide nose to make it possible.
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    I'm wondering if the Ti geo has the same great climbing sensation. They are almost completely different machines. It's either pull the trigger or throw a Wren/Fox boost on my Beargrease. I already have plus wheels so I'm really struggling with making a decision.

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    jp, I can understand that one! I know of a couple peeps that have the Ti Sergeant and say the same I do of its climbing prowess. One of em is using 29+ wheels on his, which is only possible with the Ti frame. I determined that I bought a fatbike to be a fatbike and Sarge can be a + or a fat, hmm, semifat with Maxxis FBF 3.8's but is mostly wearing his 3.0's.

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    For the guys running 29+ on the Sarge, did they go with a shorter travel fork?

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    120mm fork on it with 29+.

    Personally, I like b+ better for all my riding antics. More flickable and that is important to me.
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    Well, just pulled the trigger on a 16 so I'm joining the RSD Sergeant ranks! Curious what others did to set up their forks on this rig, it's my first time with a Manitou product.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinesPunk View Post
    Well, just pulled the trigger on a 16 so I'm going the RSD Sergeant ranks! Curious what others did to set up their forks on this rig, it's my first time with a Manitou product.

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    Set the air pressure, twist the top knob to affect compression and twist the bottom knob to affect rebound. It's a very straightforward fork. Iv'e been riding mine for a year and enjoy the playful attitude Sarge has.

    More importantly, welcome to the Sergeant club! You're in for a real treat the moment you throw a leg over your new friend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    You're in for a real treat the moment you throw a leg over your new friend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    120mm fork on it with 29+.

    Personally, I like b+ better for all my riding antics. More flickable and that is important to me.
    IDK, 29+ seems plenty flickable

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    Not! That's why my Rune still has a job!

    29+ is sluggish and consumes far too much fuel.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post

    nvphatty was at bunny ranch? @.o
    lotsa dem ranches in these parts but i'm not sure if there was bunnies or rabbits.
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    Got the Sergeant on my doorstep today. Will build it up this weekend and take it for a shakedown ride. Anyone have info on how these tires will perform on wet roots/sand? Suspecting I may need bigger knobs for michigan dirt. Other than that I am going to try and swap the brakes for Shimano XTs to keep my fleet consistent. Might also pit on a trip shifter since I'm weird like that. I'm looking forward to figuring this whole plus size thing out, so is Kali the trail dog.

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    Looks like a pair of Sergeants in the works! Good stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by makpak42 View Post
    Kondra,

    I ride the 2016 Alum Sergeant. I'm sure you saw my post above. I too was on the fence about ordering a bike I haven't ridden. Had a few back and forth emails with Alex. Great customer service. Add in a great price for the whole package. I decided to go for it and I'm so glad I did.

    In my area of Ohio I ride short ups and downs, tight twisty singletrack laden with roots and rocks. Smaller jumps and drops of 2-3 feet high. I like to ride fast, pop off roots, rocks, small jumps, catch air were I can. I got to say the Sarge is very responsive. No problem getting some air under the wheels. And with roots to contend with, the flickable front end makes putting front wheel where I want it much easier. The bike is very maneuverable, responds well to body English. No problems with climbing, sometimes gotta get your lean on! I added a dropper post for more aggressive downhill corner carving. Good BB height, no issue with pedal strikes. Like Banshee mentioned, the geo is slightly different, but I don't think it'll make a drastic difference.

    I've never owned a full suspension, but from everything I understand, tire/air volume and/or steel frames is no substitute for a full suspension. The 27.5 plus will increase traction and absorb some of the small root/rock trail chatter. You can still get bounced out of your seat, need to use your legs as your suspension. But it's hard to beat the responsiveness and quick acceleration of a hardtail.

    I've been having a lot of fun on the trails with Sarge. I don't think you can go wrong. With the right frame size you can dial in the cockpit to your liking.

    Damn, long post. Bourbon makes me chatty.
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    Looks like a pair of Sergeants in the works! Good stuff.
    I thought so too, it's 2 different pictures.
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