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    Hayduke 27.5+ hardtail

    Anxiously awaiting till September to bikepack 6000km (4000 miles) along the Cordillera de los Andes with Advocate Cycles' Hayduke 27.5+ hardtail

    Hayduke

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    Looks decent for a trail bike, but I can think of better options for a 4000 mile tour in South America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeny View Post
    Looks decent for a trail bike, but I can think of better options for a 4000 mile tour in South America.
    Hola bikeny,

    Next year I'm also planning to explore Bolivia & Ecuador off-road with this same bike (another 4000+ miles).... in your opinion, which ones are a better option?

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    I sent Hayduke an email requesting pricing and additional option and got no response.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheirOnlyPortrait View Post
    Hola bikeny,

    Next year I'm also planning to explore Bolivia & Ecuador off-road with this same bike (another 4000+ miles).... in your opinion, which ones are a better option?

    Saludos,
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    I'm just saying it doesn't look like it's designed for that purpose. If I was doing that kind or ride, I would want a rigid fork with everything/bottle cage mounts, rack/fender mounts, everything mounts on the bottom of the downtube, 29+ tires on 35mm-40mm rims so I could run normal 29er tires in a pinch, longer chainstays, no dropper post, normal 100/135 QR wheels, and a standard threaded bottom bracket.

    Something like a Surly ECR or a Jones Plus would be my first choice. Or the custom Waltworks that he is welded for me right now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PHeller View Post
    I sent Hayduke an email requesting pricing and additional option and got no response.
    Hola PHeller,

    I'm sorry to hear you didn't get an answer to your mail from Advocate Cycles, yet. I know they had been traveling a lot (and they're designing another model, too) and that might be the reason for the delay...

    On the other hand, I'm getting a Hayduke in September for my Project (Their Only Portrait. Portraits & Cycling) but I'm not 100% sure when that production lot will hit the stores.

    I hope they get back to you soon and I'll let Tim know about your mail as soon as I get in touch with him

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeny View Post
    I'm just saying it doesn't look like it's designed for that purpose. If I was doing that kind or ride, I would want a rigid fork with everything/bottle cage mounts, rack/fender mounts, everything mounts on the bottom of the downtube, 29+ tires on 35mm-40mm rims so I could run normal 29er tires in a pinch, longer chainstays, no dropper post, normal 100/135 QR wheels, and a standard threaded bottom bracket.

    Something like a Surly ECR or a Jones Plus would be my first choice. Or the custom Waltworks that he is welded for me right now!
    Hola bikeny,

    My Hayduke will have a 120mm rigid fork with a 100mm dynamo hub and everything/bottle cages mount & eyelets for racks

    For Argentina I'll be using 29x2.4 tires in 45mm rims and I'll be using 27.5x3.0 in 52mm rims for Bolivia!

    Unfortunately Surly's ECR wasn't designed to use 29er tires, but I do LOVE their Krampus... the only problem is that I don't like how QBP handles their business and I LOVE that Advocate Cycles exists solely to create innovative bicycles and deliver 100% of profits from the company back to cycling advocacy efforts!

    I also prefer Patagonia over other outdoor brands, even when I know their products aren't always the best option available

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheirOnlyPortrait View Post
    Hola bikeny,

    My Hayduke will have a 120mm rigid fork with a 100mm dynamo hub and everything/bottle cages mount & eyelets for racks

    For Argentina I'll be using 29x2.4 tires in 45mm rims and I'll be using 27.5x3.0 in 52mm rims for Bolivia!

    Unfortunately Surly's ECR wasn't designed to use 29er tires, but I do LOVE their Krampus... the only problem is that I don't like how QBP handles their business and I LOVE that Advocate Cycles exists solely to create innovative bicycles and deliver 100% of profits from the company back to cycling advocacy efforts!

    I also prefer Patagonia over other outdoor brands, even when I know their products aren't always the best option available

    Saludos,
    Federico
    Thanks for adding this information, it gives a little more insight into your choices. Sounds like you have thought this through and have made some good decisions there. I applaud your support of companies like that and of your mission on these rides. I wish I had the time and drive to take on a project like this!

    Best of luck on your adventures, and I look forward to reading more about them here!

    Mark

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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeny View Post
    Thanks for adding this information, it gives a little more insight into your choices. Sounds like you have thought this through and have made some good decisions there. I applaud your support of companies like that and of your mission on these rides. I wish I had the time and drive to take on a project like this!

    Best of luck on your adventures, and I look forward to reading more about them here!

    Mark
    Hola Mark,

    Thanks for your message!!! The first step for me was to realize the importance of time over money & material wealth... and I somehow found the courage to leave behind a career in Foreign Trade (15+ years) almost 4 years ago.
    Now the big problem isn't time but money, as it's not as easy in South America to get support from the community as it's in USA or Europe, but I'm determined to make a difference even if it's one print at a time!

    Your can read about my 1st warm up trip at bikepacking & expedition's forum (Bikepacking with a dirt jumper?)

    With some luck (as the Hayduke won't be ready, yet) for my 2nd warm up trip I'll be bikepacking BR-319, a 600 miles trip through one of the best preserved areas of the Amazon jungle. This road was abandoned decades ago and was reclaimed by nature… the locals called it “caminho das Oncas” as it’s still one of the few places where it’s common to spot the endangered big cat (Jaguar).

    And you can obviously check Their Only Portrait. Portraits & Cycling

    Saludos!
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    Pricing is on the website. Advocatecycles.com

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    I think its awesome what they are doing but I asked them if they'd make drop-outs to fit a 29+ in the Hayduke and never got any response. They also don't list the price of frame only on the website either.
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    What would 29+ specific dropouts be? They come with either 142mm or 148mm dropouts. The price of $750 for frames has been reported in various stories. Act fast and you can get it for $650 (or $1650 for Ti).
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    They make (or design) their own dropouts. My guess is that they could make dropouts that lengthen the chainstays to accommodate a large tire.

    They don't elude to making the frames in the USA, so they probably need a minimum order to produce the amount of frames necessary at a given price point. It will be interesting to see what happens after the initial order. Will they have left-overs? What happens if they meet the minimum? Will they give your money back?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PHeller View Post
    I think its awesome what they are doing but I asked them if they'd make drop-outs to fit a 29+ in the Hayduke and never got any response. They also don't list the price of frame only on the website either.
    Hola PHeller,

    They updated their website and now they're showing prices for their frames and complete bikes... and as BluesDawg mentioned you can get them cheaper till the end of July through their crowdfunding campaign

    https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/a...-cycles#/story

    They're working on a third bike, but not sure if that will be a 29+

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    Anyone pick one of these up yet? This looks like a great, well thought out ride!

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    Hola Wilson,

    I already did 1000 miles at Southern Patagonia with mine (titanium) and it's AWESOME!

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    Been eyeing the "Plusbike" market and this might be the ticket for me. My 29 x 2.4 ardent SS Coconino has been beyond wonderful, but after 7 years I want some gears on occasion. Of everything out there currently, this seems like a very well thought out bike using this platform. I love steel(never ridden ti) and seems like a great build for the price. The geo seems very versatile. Kind of a one bike quiver bike! Thanks for the pics!

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    Hola Wilson,

    I LOVE riding this bike even with the extra-weight I'm carrying through Patagonia (I'd to add a rear rack with panniers to carry the Portable Photography Studio) facing crazy winds and bad road conditions (with a 1x10 setup).
    I think this bike can be used for ANYTHING just by selecting the right tire & rim combo

    Soon I'll be using a 29x2.4 & 35mm rims combo... and next year for Bolivia, I'll try 27.5x3.0 (WTB Trail Boss) with 45mm rims

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    Theironlyportrait, what rims/tire combos have you tried on this bike so far? What drives your rim/tire combo choices above? I ride 29 x 2.4 on 35mm rims and its great! 27.5 x 3 is very appealing but not sure what rim size is ideal. If you have experience with 27.5 x 3 on a given rim size, your feedback and thoughts are appreciated.

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    Hola Wilson!

    I hope you had a lovely Christmas

    Unfortunately, so far, I only tried 29 x 2.4 (35mm rims) & 27.5 x 2.8 (45mm rims)... but I'm anxiously awaiting to try the new WTB Trail Boss (27.5 x 3.0) with the same 45mm rims I'm using with the TrailBlazers (WTB Scrapers)!

    Saludos,
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    PS: I choose the tire/rim combo depending on how much pavement I'll need to ride... more than 50% will get the Ardents, unless the gravel/trail part is really bad (as the one found at Southern Patagonia).
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    I picked mine up a couple weeks ago. I've moved from 29" to 29+ to now 27.5+. I still have my regular[really? regular? how in the hell is a fat bike now considered regular?] fat bike, this Hayduke, and a standard 29er I use for...not much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ~martini~ View Post
    I picked mine up a couple weeks ago. I've moved from 29" to 29+ to now 27.5+. I still have my regular[really? regular? how in the hell is a fat bike now considered regular?] fat bike, this Hayduke, and a standard 29er I use for...not much.
    Very clean looking bike! I want one... badly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~martini~ View Post
    I picked mine up a couple weeks ago. I've moved from 29" to 29+ to now 27.5+.
    Curious on your thoughts of 29+ vs 27.5+. I've heard some people say that 29+ is unmatched, others think its just too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wilson1417 View Post
    Been eyeing the "Plusbike" market and this might be the ticket for me. My 29 x 2.4 ardent SS Coconino has been beyond wonderful, but after 7 years I want some gears on occasion.
    If I had the money I'd love to go a local builder (I'm in Flagstaff) and work with them one on one to build a bike. Steve would probably hate me though because I'd want to be a maybe a bit too involved. I think Coconino has built some 29+ models. Not getting any cheap, though.
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    Hola,

    Here are a few more photos of my Hayduke at Tierra del Fuego, Patagonia...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PHeller View Post
    If I had the money I'd love to go a local builder (I'm in Flagstaff) and work with them one on one to build a bike. Steve would probably hate me though because I'd want to be a maybe a bit too involved. I think Coconino has built some 29+ models. Not getting any cheap, though.
    Hola PHeller,

    I guess you'll love this post:

    https://gypsybytrade.wordpress.com/2...packing-frame/

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    Quote Originally Posted by PHeller View Post
    Curious on your thoughts of 29+ vs 27.5+. I've heard some people say that 29+ is unmatched, others think its just too much.
    Living in the upper midwest, our trails are generally of low elevation gain. We make up for that lack in twisty trails(generally). In my travels out west with the Krampus, it WAS just an awesome trail eating demon. A little harder to push on the ups, but on the downs, hang on. SUPER fun bike on the down. I chalk that up to both geometry and tires/traction. But at the home trails...it was only ok. I never really was able to feel the bike just liven up like it did out west. I still liked it, but it was missing the nimblness that my 29er had.

    I initially scoffed at the b+ thing. I thought it was silly. Told Bob Poor as much too. I'm eating my words though. While I've only had chance to ride the Hayduke on dry trails for about 20 miles...it already feels like its going to eclipse the Krampus in the fun department. Especially on the local stuff. And I bet getting it out west, or up north is going to be a similar revelation, matching and besting the Krampus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ~martini~ View Post
    Living in the upper midwest, our trails are generally of low elevation gain. We make up for that lack in twisty trails(generally). In my travels out west with the Krampus, it WAS just an awesome trail eating demon. A little harder to push on the ups, but on the downs, hang on. SUPER fun bike on the down. I chalk that up to both geometry and tires/traction. But at the home trails...it was only ok. I never really was able to feel the bike just liven up like it did out west. I still liked it, but it was missing the nimblness that my 29er had.

    I initially scoffed at the b+ thing. I thought it was silly. Told Bob Poor as much too. I'm eating my words though. While I've only had chance to ride the Hayduke on dry trails for about 20 miles...it already feels like its going to eclipse the Krampus in the fun department. Especially on the local stuff. And I bet getting it out west, or up north is going to be a similar revelation, matching and besting the Krampus.

    Interesting, thanks for sharing your thoughts.
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    Try one of these instead Martini

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    This doesn't have too much to do w/ the Hayduke, other than the bike looks quite CHICHIS!

    A buddy is building one up and I definitely have one on the radar come spring... The lines are quite nice and I think its versatility will be a choice ride for many a folk.

    But... on the + size tires... I don't know if its fair to say that that addition to the bike world may be slightly akin to skis going from straight to shaped... Just a thought.

    I too reside in the Midwest (by summer) and have my fastest trail times on + size tires. I've got a Pugs (set w/ drop bars) w/ 26x4 and 29+ set up as well as an Instigator set up 26+ - They rally the goods with predictability and flow. The connection to the trail is unparalleled and the fun factor does not disappoint. When I've hopped back on a regular set up, I feel twitchy and like I'll slide out on everything, which is ridiculous, b/c that's all we used to ride, but the + size tire just amps up that ability and confidence.

    29+ is a RAD size the wheels roll FAST. 26+ is cool too, but I think I jumped the gun and would rather hop aboard the 27.5+ train for the speed and purchase on climbs; The only beater is when I migrate out west w/ my high altitude buddies, they seem to have an easier time on the ups (for a few weeks anyway).

    I'm holding out that Advocate will have some plates that can accommodate a 135 rear as I've got a CK SS hub that I am quite fond of and would like to xfer to that 27.5+ set up, Hayduke style.

    Get your Advocate on!
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    Anyone else get their hands on the Hayduke yet? Love to hear more about this bike...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smithhammer View Post
    Anyone else get their hands on the Hayduke yet? Love to hear more about this bike...
    My Ti frame should arrive next week. Sadly I'll be waiting a while to get the fork (i.e. a 120 boost pike) and wheels. Gives me time to sell the old Salsa frame
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    So they're already starting to ship the Ti frames? That's good and bad to hear. I just heard my wallet groan...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smithhammer View Post
    So they're already starting to ship the Ti frames? That's good and bad to hear. I just heard my wallet groan...
    Mine will be here on the 4th. Federico up above has been on his for weeks now. Perhaps we can talk him into providing a few more details about his riding experiences
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    Quote Originally Posted by sdemars View Post
    My Ti frame should arrive next week. Sadly I'll be waiting a while to get the fork (i.e. a 120 boost pike) and wheels. Gives me time to sell the old Salsa frame
    Hola sdemars,

    I'm running Rock Shox's Reba RL 120mm (29" boost) with WTB's Scraper & Trailblazer for the last 3 months and I love this setup

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    PS: But I'll love to try it with the new Trail Boss 3.0, too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sdemars View Post
    Mine will be here on the 4th. Federico up above has been on his for weeks now. Perhaps we can talk him into providing a few more details about his riding experiences
    Hola Sdemars,

    I'd been riding a Ti prototype for the last 3 months and as I far as I know the only difference will be the rack eyelets... so let me know if you have any questions

    Have a great weekend!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheirOnlyPortrait View Post
    Hola,

    Here are a few more photos of my Hayduke at Tierra del Fuego, Patagonia...

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    Hi Federico,

    I saw in your pictures that you are running a rear rack on your Hayduke frame. However, on the Hayduke produce page, I don't see any eyelets on the lower seatstay for racks/fenders (I can run a seatpost clamp w/ rack mounts for the rack arms). Is this because yours is a Ti prototype? Why did they remove these in the steel frame? I've emailed Tim @ Advocate about adding mounts to the production frame or even making a dropout option with rack mounts (ie. Alternator dropouts). I would like the option to run a rear rack as I want to be able to configure the bike as a daily commuter when not bikepacking/MTB.

    Thanks.

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    I have an Old Man Mountain rack for my Mukluk Ti that attaches to the top bolt of where my alternator dropouts pivot. The rack uses a hefty adapter and a longer replacement bolt. There are other racks that attach in the same manner, and I think it would work well with the dropout bolts on the Hayduke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bosun120 View Post
    Hi Federico,

    I saw in your pictures that you are running a rear rack on your Hayduke frame. However, on the Hayduke produce page, I don't see any eyelets on the lower seatstay for racks/fenders (I can run a seatpost clamp w/ rack mounts for the rack arms). Is this because yours is a Ti prototype? Why did they remove these in the steel frame? I've emailed Tim @ Advocate about adding mounts to the production frame or even making a dropout option with rack mounts (ie. Alternator dropouts). I would like the option to run a rear rack as I want to be able to configure the bike as a daily commuter when not bikepacking/MTB.

    Thanks.
    Hola bosun120,

    Actually I think is just the opposite... my Ti frame doesn't have eyelets for racks because is a prototype, but as far as I know the production models will have

    I just attached my DIY rear rack to the alternator dropout's top bolt (with larger bolts) and to the seatpost collar!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Welnic View Post
    I have an Old Man Mountain rack for my Mukluk Ti that attaches to the top bolt of where my alternator dropouts pivot. The rack uses a hefty adapter and a longer replacement bolt. There are other racks that attach in the same manner, and I think it would work well with the dropout bolts on the Hayduke.
    Hola Welnic,

    I rode mine for 1000 miles at Southern Patagonia (carrying a portable photography studio) and so far is working perfectly

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheirOnlyPortrait View Post
    Hola bosun120,

    Actually I think is just the opposite... my Ti frame doesn't have eyelets for racks because is a prototype, but as far as I know the production models will have

    I just attached my DIY rear rack to the alternator dropout's top bolt (with larger bolts) and to the seatpost collar!

    Saludos,
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    Thanks Federico for the detailed pics! By "larger bolts" do you mean you just used longer length bolts (M5 thread), and the dropout attachment top bolts are M5 thread as well (like nearly every other rack mount out there). BTW, for your upper rack mounts you can get a seatpost clamp with rack mounts like this Problem Solvers one.

    Looking at the 1st pic below of the Hayduke production frame dropouts, it seems like there are no dedicated points for rack mounts on the lower seatstay. I've emailed Tim about this but haven't gotten a reply yet.
    Just to be clear, I'm not looking to do any fully-loaded touring (80 lbs on a rack) with the Hayduke, I know that's not what this frame was built for and would be better suited for frame/seatbags. However it would nice to have the option to run a rear rack w/ 2 small (10-15L) panniers for quick errands or commuting.



    Comparing this to a pic of the upcoming Lorax dropouts (if you look at brake side), there are rack/fender mounts located on the inside area of the seatstays. Dunno why they didn't include these on the Hayduke frame too.



    BTW Federico, that's a really cool project you are working on with helping people create long-lasting memories. I'll see what I can do to chip in!

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    Here is a picture of my rack. It has longer bolts that hold on the top of the alternator dropouts, and an aluminum spacer between the rack mount and the frame so the rack mount doesn't clamp onto the frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Welnic View Post
    Here is a picture of my rack. It has longer bolts that hold on the top of the alternator dropouts, and an aluminum spacer between the rack mount and the frame so the rack mount doesn't clamp onto the frame.

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    Cool...thanks for the pics. Does anyone know if Alternator dropouts can fit on the Hayduke? Their design looks very similar to the Portage system and AFAIK Tim was a designer at Salsa before starting Advocate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bosun120 View Post
    Cool...thanks for the pics. Does anyone know if Alternator dropouts can fit on the Hayduke? Their design looks very similar to the Portage system and AFAIK Tim was a designer at Salsa before starting Advocate.
    I'm not sure but think it's unlikely. He'd have to deal with patent infringements for one, but the bigger issue is that the Hayduke is really a Boost rear end. The 148 plates appear "normal" while the 142 plates are thicker.

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    Almost finished!

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    Unfortunately the WTB Bridger/Scraper combo won't work with the MRP Stage fork. Will be swapping out with a Rockshox Yari later this week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheirOnlyPortrait View Post
    Hola bosun120,

    Actually I think is just the opposite... my Ti frame doesn't have eyelets for racks because is a prototype, but as far as I know the production models will have
    Federico,
    How is the ride quality of the ti frame with all that gear. Do you find it very flexible?

    I just spoke with the nice people over at Advocate cycles, and they confirmed that the Hayduke does NOT have any rack eyelets or brazeons.

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    Ok, I'm about to take the plunge on a stock-build Hayduke, but I'd love to hear some complete bike weights from those who already have them. I realize I'm buying a steel-framed + bike, so I'm not expecting an uber-lightweight rig by any means, I'm just not finding any posted weights for the complete bike anywhere, and I'd like to have an idea. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smithhammer View Post
    Ok, I'm about to take the plunge on a stock-build Hayduke, but I'd love to hear some complete bike weights from those who already have them. I realize I'm buying a steel-framed + bike, so I'm not expecting an uber-lightweight rig by any means, I'm just not finding any posted weights for the complete bike anywhere, and I'd like to have an idea. Thanks.
    Size large, with pedals, set up tubeless on WTB Scraper rim with WTB Bridger tire (great tire, but heavy), Yari 140mm fork, pump, spare tube, and levers in top tube bag - 34 pounds.

    Initial ride was 11 miles and over 2500 feet of climbing on loose single track with some tight switch-backs. It rides, climbs and feels much lighter. Handled the switchbacks with no issues.

    Overall very pleased with bike. The welds and paint are excellent.

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    Thanks for the info. "It climbs and feels much lighter" seems to be a consistent observation in the reviews I've read.

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    Hayduke 27.5+ hardtail

    Here's mine. Not much real trail time as it's winter here. But, the few rides I did get on it were fantastic.

    I've made some build updates since this pic. Will post a new reply or thread once I can get some fresh pics.

    Mine weighs in at 28ish pounds.


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