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    Best bang for buck 27.5+ ~$700

    Hi guys, So I am trying to get into a 27+ for around $700. Unfortunately, this is my max for a while so I have to stay at around this price.

    I have found 3 Bikes

    Nishiki Colorado comp 27.5+
    On sale for $499
    The best part of the bike is it's running a Sram NX 1x11 setup.
    I have ridden it and i like it, the major downside for me is, I'm not sure if the tires can be set up tubeless.
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    GT Ricochet Sport 27.5 Plus
    On sale $599
    Best part of this bike would seem to be the tapered head tube.
    I have ridden this as well, did not feel as good as the Nishiki.
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    And then the Bikes direct Motobecane for $699
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    Thanks for any help.

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    The Nishiki is only running a Plus 2.8 tire on the front with a 2.35 on the rear. No Boost front or rear it appears. 30mm rims- too skinny.

    The GT has Boost and 2.8 tires on 40mm inner width rims. 15x110 front but 141 Boost rear hub. The only bike with the correct width rims for Plus.

    Moto has Boost 148 hub rear and 110 front with 2.8 tires but 29 inner width rims.

    The fork on all is for bike paths and smooth trail. No rebound damping and plastic not metal bushings inside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eb1888 View Post
    The Nishiki is only running a Plus 2.8 tire on the front with a 2.35 on the rear. No Boost front or rear it appears. 30mm rims- too skinny.
    I thought that was strange so when i was on site i verifed that in fact both tires are 2.8 on 30mm rims. They both also have through axle on the front but not on the rear.

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    If looking at motobecane, consider diamondback bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eb1888 View Post
    The GT has Boost and 2.8 tires on 40mm inner width rims. 15x110 front but 141 Boost rear hub. The only bike with the correct width rims for Plus.
    How fast do you guys usually take corners to get a + tire to roll off the rim?

    I have a 2.8 on a 25mm rim and have had zero problems so far, even with hairpin switchbacks. I've tried to cut too far back (oversteer) on a turn on purpose just to see what the crash limit is for losing grip, and still the tire stayed on just fine. But I'm also not taking sharp turns at like 15 mph either...
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    the nishiki would be my choice here....way better drivetrain..all else being kind of close, bikes in this price range come with crap tires, replace with TR and there[s a good chance tubeless comversion will work.

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    Well... WTB originally said the trailblazer 2.8s were meant for rims 30-45mm inner width, so... 30 is right on spec.

    BUT... if you can find one... the Mongoose Tyax Super Sport is a 2x8 drivetrain with tubeless ready rims, a coil-oil fork with a 5 position compression adjustment (full open to full lock, spots 2, 3 and 4 are where you'll likely run it, it clunks if you bottom it while in the full open position) and the crankset and front derailleur are 10 speed ring models so swap the chain, rear derailleur, cassette and shifter and you have a 2x10.

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    The bike direct is the only one with decent, actually good, hydraulic brakes. Put a decent 120mm fork to slacken it slighty, good to go.

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    look at your local bike shops for close out deals
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    So after investigating further, it seems that the hubs are 135QR, from what i understand this is 141Thru axle. But the frame does not support thru axle on the rear, so i would need to use QR end caps to make a 141 Thru axle hub work on the bike. Am i right in this?

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    All those bike I would wait and look for something used or maybe a Marin Pine Mountain on sale.

    for above question

    135qr translates to 142 thru axle same wheel dish and disc spacing
    141qr translates to 148 thru axle same as above

    you can get adpaters to go 135/142 to 141/148 but need to redish wheel and IMO is not worth the extra stress putting on due to adapters unless only option, at your price point make sure you get a set of wheels that are tubeless but you are going to kind of get what you get as far as spacing.
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    Sometimes Rickety, not a turd

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    There are new 2017 Marin Pine mtns on eBay for 700. Also performance has 2018s for more but they have a sale coming. If you can get into that bike best option compared to others in this thread.

    Your choice obviously if eBay or online route is for you.

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    When is this sale happening? I need a new pine.

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    Not sure check their webpage often. Saw a 30% points last week when gave quick look. Anyway for record I haven't had need to buy anything g from performance in a long time. Was great and convenient when I got back into sport 10 years ago just no need now use a smaller local LBS. For newer riders or very restrictive budgets could be option for some. New Pines do look sweet for sure if I didn't own a Stache I would be considering them when the current herd could accept a new member.

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    https://www.performancebike.com/shop...e-2018-31-8469 looks like still has the 30% points back

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    That's actually a really good deal. One could grab a better set of tires and a good bit of accessories. I may hit that up.

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    this doesn't help now but bulls bikes had a Copperhead rsi 3 (alum) with 90% xt group for 700....
    I almost $#!t myself when I saw it..... point being fortune favors the patient.

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