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    ^NS Surge. Inverted Fork. 26+. Nice style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ideate View Post
    How wide do they measure from knob to knob?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ideate View Post
    Aren't those very narrow for a + tire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    Aren't those very narrow for a + tire?
    A 2.8" Ranger measures a true 2.6" or so....so I think it's more at home on this width of a rim rather than a 35-40mm and flattening out the profile - which seems to be the popular trend. Hence why I was asking about an Arch MK3 earlier. I called stans and they said they though 35-40mm rims were too wide for a tire that measures 2.6.

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    I've got the Flows and wish I had 35-40mm rims for my 2.4" Chunky Monkey up to my 3.0" VTF. My VTF looks like a light bulb.

    I haven't even laced them up yet, so that might change after I get some miles on 'em.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GSJ1973 View Post
    A 2.8" Ranger measures a true 2.6" or so....so I think it's more at home on this width of a rim rather than a 35-40mm and flattening out the profile - which seems to be the popular trend. Hence why I was asking about an Arch MK3 earlier. I called stans and they said they though 35-40mm rims were too wide for a tire that measures 2.6.
    These tires were made for a minimum of about 40mm external width. I haven't seen that a rim that wide or even wider flattens the tread out enough to hurt anything. This is the reason wide rims became popular, to get rid of the tire/rim light bulb profile which causes weakness in the sidewalls. These tires are very light for their size. They need to have a rim that keeps the side walls straight. It gives the sidewalls a lot more support and strength, even at very low pressures. You'll have to run very high pressures to get that support back, which totally defeats the purpose of these tires. Let us know how they go, long term.

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    Going any less than 40mm rim with my 3.0's would make em handle no different than a pair of knards, downright predictable that they'll let loose at the most inopportune moment. Narrow rims and fat tires (2.8/3.x) defeats the point and returns us to the mid 90's when we were stuck with 19mm rims and 2.125/2.2. The other issue is typical riding pressure has to be higher with narrow rim/fat tire combo, also negating any traction gain. Deal breaker, you bet!
    Are the peeps suggesting to John Q Public actually doing the field of variables with the + setup? Do they ride off the street?
    I'm thinking more so that they are road converts that don't really get the dirt variants present on any given ride.

    Perhaps, my trials bike with a 47mm rear combined with a 2.4 has given insight that is not available to peeps that have never set eyes on a seatless bike and sidehopped a 4' ledge and needed all the traction possible without the tire peeling over the side of the rim.
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    Opinions are like... well, anyway we all have one.

    There was a poll in the 6Fattie thread last year about the best rim width for plus tires.
    There were 50 responses, all over the map, with devotees at both ends of the spectrum:

    NEW POLL: What's your preferred inner rim width (mm) for 3.0" tires?


    Only you can decide what's best for your bike, terrain, style, type of tire, pressures you run, etc. I've been happy with 31.6mm inner width rims on 27.5" wheels using several 2.8 and 3.0" tires. I tried an i38 rim, but felt that the resulting tire profile was too squared off which made the handling too sluggish for my riding. I prefer the quicker handling and better rolling that comes with a narrower rim (no trials stuff for me!). Too wide a rim also exposes the sidewalls to cuts for the conditions I often encounter.

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    C'mon Maxxis! Where's the 26x2.8" rubber???

    I'm with Levity, I think the 2.8" zone will be where I'll end up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by levity View Post
    Only you can decide what's best for your bike, terrain, style, type of tire, pressures you run, etc.
    Pretty much! Granted hearing of other's experiences can help out in making decisions. This is why I toss my experiences out hoping someone else thinking the same things I do will see them.

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    I still think 3.25 would be the sweetspot for tiresize for riding on all terrain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornfield View Post

    I'm with Levity, I think the 2.8" zone will be where I'll end up.
    that zone requires a password doncha know??
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    Quote Originally Posted by nvphatty View Post
    that zone requires a password doncha know??
    I'll just brute force my way in!

    Was about to order some DT comps, but now I'm looking at Sapim from Dan's for less than 1/2 the price!
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    Quote Originally Posted by levity View Post
    Opinions are like... well, anyway we all have one.

    There was a poll in the 6Fattie thread last year about the best rim width for plus tires.
    There were 50 responses, all over the map, with devotees at both ends of the spectrum:

    NEW POLL: What's your preferred inner rim width (mm) for 3.0" tires?


    Only you can decide what's best for your bike, terrain, style, type of tire, pressures you run, etc. I've been happy with 31.6mm inner width rims on 27.5" wheels using several 2.8 and 3.0" tires. I tried an i38 rim, but felt that the resulting tire profile was too squared off which made the handling too sluggish for my riding. I prefer the quicker handling and better rolling that comes with a narrower rim (no trials stuff for me!). Too wide a rim also exposes the sidewalls to cuts for the conditions I often encounter.
    To begin with, narrow rims, everything else equal, don't make a bike roll better. That poll was started back when no one made a + tire specifically for wide rims. Even at that, almost half the people chose 40-50mm rims. The rim that started this latest discussion is only a 28.8mm outer width rim. Way, way to narrow for a 2.8" tire. And again, these Ranger tires were made specifically for wide rims. Even a 50mm rim doesn't flatten out the tread on these tires.

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    Meh. Ran a 26x3 for years with a sub 30mm od rim, was fine.

    No four foot side hops though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zowie View Post
    Meh. Ran a 26x3 for years with a sub 30mm od rim, was fine.

    No four foot side hops though.
    Well, that's kinda the thing sometimes. You just don't know how well a bike can work until you've tried something different. I'm amazed how people have such strong opinions about something that they have never tried.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zowie View Post
    Meh. Ran a 26x3 for years with a sub 30mm od rim, was fine.

    No four foot side hops though.
    No road rims lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornfield View Post
    C'mon Maxxis! Where's the 26x2.8" rubber???

    I think the 2.8" zone will be where I'll end up.

    Quote Originally Posted by nvphatty View Post
    that zone requires a password doncha know??
    password = Supremes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    I'm amazed how people have such strong opinions about something that they have never tried.
    Da interwebz?

    Edit: I'll explain this snark: The interwebz is basically built on people who express strong opinions on everything and know exactly what's best for everyone regardless of experience or circumstances. Being surprised at this is like being shocked that water is wet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carl Mega View Post
    Da interwebz?
    huh?
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    I just tried searching the interwebz for new Maxxis news but found nuthin.

    What's the last we heard from them about the 26x2.8?


    *Edit: I found something close to home, but not new. Maxxis Interbike 2016 - Mtbr.com

    And some eye candy:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornfield View Post
    What's the last we heard from them about the 26x2.8?
    Yeah, I'm hoping Maxxis isn't full of crap.
    Last I heard was April.
    We will see.

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    Yep, they are listed on their (maxxis) site, but not available yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zowie View Post
    Yeah, I'm hoping Maxxis isn't full of crap.
    Last I heard was April.
    We will see.
    Yes, I emailed them a month ago, and they said hopefully April. So, we'll see.
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    long long wait

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisx View Post
    Does this quote from above link say they have a 26 x 3.0 griffin?

    ´Meanwhile, in the Maxxis trail bike tire line comes the new Griffin, which is available for 2017 in 26, 27.5, and 29×2.30 models´
    No, I watched numerous times to be sure; only in 2.3" pizza cutters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornfield View Post
    No, I watched numerous times to be sure; only in 2.3" pizza cutters.
    did not read it right, must have missed the 2. part and only saw the 3

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    Keep an eye out for coverage of the Maxxis Summit 2017. Bikerumor has done two articles on it already, but hasn't mentioned anything about our beloved 26", yet...

    https://www.bikerumor.com/2017/03/06...tubeless-race/
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    Thinking about getting a Dirt Wizard. I assume the 120tpi would be the one I'd want.

    Where can I find one for a decent price?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornfield View Post
    Thinking about getting a Dirt Wizard. I assume the 120tpi would be the one I'd want.

    Where can I find one for a decent price?
    Yes, I would get the 120tpi, it's way lighter and more compliant. Universal Cycles has them for $90 for the folding version. But u can get 10% off with vip10 coupon code, plus no tax and free shipping, which equals about another 10-15% off.

    https://www.universalcycles.com/shop...s.php?id=65957
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornfield View Post
    Thinking about getting a Dirt Wizard. I assume the 120tpi would be the one I'd want.

    Where can I find one for a decent price?
    $90 at workdwidecyclery plus 10% coupon... ebay-customer-discount.

    $90 at trailthis.com I may have a 15% coupon I will check to see if it's still valid

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    Thanks guys! They're really proud of them things, eh?

    I was hoping a DW could be had for around 60-70 bux shipped. I think I'm just gettin antsy waiting for the Minions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornfield View Post
    Thanks guys! They're really proud of them things, eh?

    I was hoping a DW could be had for around 60-70 bux shipped. I think I'm just gettin antsy waiting for the Minions.
    Well, if you factor in 10% discount then free shipping and no tax, that equals about 25% total off, which equals $67.5 each. But u need to get 2 to qualify for the discount.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shredman69 View Post
    Well, if you factor in 10% discount then free shipping and no tax, that equals about 25% total off, which equals $67.5 each. But u need to get 2 to qualify for the discount.
    What really got me thinking about getting one is that I need 9mm end caps for my front hub, and I was thinking about what I could add to get free shipping at Jenson. They're the only place I could find that has HUB443 end caps. CRC has em but I don't want to mess with ordering from the UK, no DW there anyway.
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    JensonUSA has 26'' dirt wizards in 27 and 120 TPI versions for 65 and 90 respectively.

    Here's the link;
    Surly Dirt Wizard 26" Tire > Components > Tires > Dirt Tires | Jenson USA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nubcakes View Post
    JensonUSA has 26'' dirt wizards in 27 and 120 TPI versions for 65 and 90 respectively.

    Here's the link;
    Surly Dirt Wizard 26" Tire > Components > Tires > Dirt Tires | Jenson USA
    I saw that they had them. I just didn't want to buy a $90 tire to get free shipping.
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    Well the 27 TPI is always there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornfield View Post
    Thinking about getting a Dirt Wizard. I assume the 120tpi would be the one I'd want.

    Where can I find one for a decent price?
    I've bought all of my 120 tpi DWs at Shop for bicycle parts and accessories - AEBike.com. Register and you get a 10% discount, so they are $81 with free shipping.

    I recommend the 120 tpi version because a supple sidewall contributes to the benefit of going to lower pressure. But that said, I got a really light one with sidewall rubber so thin that you can see the belts. And now the sidewall is failing. My normal looking ones had zero sidewall problems. So no matter where you buy the 120 tpi, I suggest you return it if you can see the belts...

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    Thanks for all the help guys, but I'm thinking I need to stop jonsin for a new tire. I haven't even started building yet!

    My sincerest apologies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornfield View Post
    Thanks for all the help guys, but I'm thinking I need to stop jonsin for a new tire. I haven't even started building yet!

    My sincerest apologies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nvphatty View Post
    where's the neg rep button??
    Don't neg me bro!

    This morning I was like:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornfield View Post
    Don't neg me bro!

    This morning I was like:

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    Hey if you procrastinate long enough we will have minions to choose from....

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick2cents View Post
    Hey if you procrastinate long enough we will have minions to choose from....
    minions!! millions of minions.........
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    A fella's gotta hook up the boyz at the LBS and they'll hook you up, Corny... Just sayin.

    Red chiclets, nvphatty? there are some peeps that really deserve em in some other threads round here...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    A fella's gotta hook up the boyz at the LBS and they'll hook you up, Corny... Just sayin.

    Red chiclets, nvphatty? there are some peeps that really deserve em in some other threads round here...
    yessir I know what you speak of however I pulled corny's chain and rang the bell....
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    Oh, do behaaaaave!
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    I'm waiting for the 26 x 2.8 minion! going 27.5 x 2.8 DHF front and 26 x 2.8 DHR II rear on my Liteville 301! can't wait!

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    Quote Originally Posted by allenms View Post
    I've bought all of my 120 tpi DWs at Shop for bicycle parts and accessories - AEBike.com. Register and you get a 10% discount, so they are $81 with free shipping.

    I recommend the 120 tpi version because a supple sidewall contributes to the benefit of going to lower pressure. But that said, I got a really light one with sidewall rubber so thin that you can see the belts. And now the sidewall is failing. My normal looking ones had zero sidewall problems. So no matter where you buy the 120 tpi, I suggest you return it if you can see the belts...
    That's weird. No issues with my sidewalls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StevePodraza View Post
    I'm waiting for the 26 x 2.8 minion! going 27.5 x 2.8 DHF front and 26 x 2.8 DHR II rear on my Liteville 301! can't wait!
    Nice! Let us know how that combo works. I'll be getting them when they're available too, but 26 X 2.8 f/r. I wish they would do a 26 x3.0 too, So I could throw that on the front.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BansheeRune View Post
    Oh, do behaaaaave!
    How do you like your 2.8 rocker Ron? Do you run it front and back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shredman69 View Post
    That's weird. No issues with my sidewalls.
    This is the only tire like this in three years of running 120 tpi DWs. Sidewalls are thinner than usual and belts are visible. Result = flex fatigue of belts:
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    I witnessed that on my 120TPI Husker Du tires after riding them for 1 year. They started getting holes on the side around the 18month mark. Keep in mind I only ride 16-ish miles of trails a week too. I ran them consistently between 12 and 16 psi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zach_Rides View Post
    How do you like your 2.8 rocker Ron? Do you run it front and back?
    I have both the NN 3.0's and RR 3.0's. I sometimes mix em with NN front and RR rear. Mostly run em in matched pairs.
    The RR's are a lively tire that is fun to get trialsy with where the NN's cause of the snakeskin feel dead when I get trialsy.

    Ranger 26x3.0 lite trail on my dirt couch are a blast.

    Peeps with a lite tire might need to think about their equipment choices closely. I swap tires to fit the duty expected on a
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    My Ranger 26 x 2.8" on an i30 rim continues to perform well in the front. I'm still happy running 12 psi (I'm 165 plus gear) and they've settled in at 2.63" knob width. They're very elastic--they grow noticeably with higher pressure, then drop back down when the pressure's off again.

    The one terrain I've found where they're not so hot in my opinion is (unsurprisingly) wet, slightly sticky mud when they do pack up and get skittery. Not my favorite front tire behavior. In the same conditions my Conti Mountain Trail 2.3 in the rear was shedding everything just fine.

    Overall I'm pleased, though! They roll fast, absorb chatter, and have hung on pretty well to just about everything else.

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    Bumping this thread in hopes of hearing some Maxxis news I wasn't able to find.

    I don't think this one's been mentioned yet, and I know it's not really a plus tire, but it is a 26".

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    Maxxis confirmed to me on PikeBike that the 26x2.8 minons are just a few weeks out. Inspired? Anxious? Disbelief?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carl Mega View Post
    Inspired? Anxious? Disbelief?
    Yes!

    Thanks for the heads up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornfield View Post
    Yes!
    witch one?? perhaps finch platte will come nazi spelling on me again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carl Mega View Post
    Maxxis confirmed to me on PikeBike that the 26x2.8 minons are just a few weeks out. Inspired? Anxious? Disbelief?
    It's April now and I'm bumping for no other reason but to say I want my 26x2.8 DHFs. Come on Maxxis - don't stretch it out to Sea Otter - I'm impatient and my rear Ranger is getting last rites. Someone call the waaambulance!

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    I was feeling the same way yesterday, Carl, you're not the only one.

    Somebody shoot them an email.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornfield View Post
    I was feeling the same way yesterday, Carl, you're not the only one.

    Somebody shoot them an email.
    Dooooeeeet! I'm gonna need them for my new wheels!
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    Man, I wish they'd finally make some 3.2s for 26+. 2.8 is too close to 2.35! We need something leaning more toward the fatter side!

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    I'm ok with 2.8 for the rear, but I'd like the same options in 3.0 for the front. Instead, it looks like the bike industry is pushing for 2.6, SMH.
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    Pfft! So you actually want a + tire as opposed to a -?+...

    Lol

    My bike has room to spare with Ranger 3.0's, like 3/4" all around sides and crown of the tire.
    Ranger's are fair on fatness on Dually's. Noticeably fatter than My WTB Timberwolf 2.7's
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shredman69 View Post
    Dooooeeeet! I'm gonna need them for my new wheels!
    Sorry, I forgot. I got sucked into figuring out how to bump my Reba to 120mm and servicing the lowers. Also been trying to make the $50 mark at Jenson. I had some sweet shorts in my cart that musta got sold while I lagged, dangit!

    I'm sure they'll be coming soon, it's been what, a week since Carl said two weeks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornfield View Post
    I'm sure they'll be coming soon, it's been what, a week since Carl said two weeks?
    Yep. March 23rd - when I asked about seeing them in April, Maxxis guy said "we should be seeing those in the next few weeks." That's a pretty imprecise comment but I'm clinging to it. Not a cancelled project anyway - so, yeah, my bar is low.

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    I put my LBS on it. I gave them the links to the DHF and DHR2 and said find me some of these *****es! So we'll see. Hopefully they can get me some.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shredman69 View Post
    Dooooeeeet! I'm gonna need them for my new wheels!
    OK, I sent an inquiry to Maxxis a few hours ago asking when the 26x2.8 Minions will be available. I also asked about any possibility of seeing any other 26+ tires from them in the future. Now we wait...
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    Don't they realize it's been April for FIVE DAYS NOW?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Zowie View Post
    Don't they realize it's been April for FIVE DAYS NOW?

    Better to wait patiently, if you force them to hurry to much they make mistakes.

    Which tore do you want them to add to the 26 plus line up? The Ardent?

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    SPECIFICATIONS

    Size ETRTO TPI Bead Weight (g) Compound Max PSI Tech Color
    26X2.80 71-559 60 FOLDABLE 1,000 DUAL 35 EXO/TR Black
    26X2.80 71-559 120 FOLDABLE 940 3C MAXX TERRA 35 3C/EXO/TR Black
    27.5X2.80 71-584 60 FOLDABLE 1,040 DUAL 35 EXO/TR Black
    27.5X2.80 71-584 120 FOLDABLE 980 3C MAXX TERRA 35 3C/EXO/TR Black
    29X3.00 76-622 60 FOLDABLE 1,160 DUAL 30 EXO/TR Black
    29X3.00 76-622 120 FOLDABLE 1,110 3C MAXX TERRA 30 3C/EXO/TR Black

    Which sounds better, 60 or 120 tpi?

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    I've never tried a Minion, closest I have is a 2.4" Chunky Monkey and an Ardent. I'd like to see a 26" Rekon/Ikon+, as well as a 2.8 Minion. Would be really cool to see a 2.8" CM!
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    They're on their way, be patient.

    More 26+ (Rekon/Ikon) tires will be developed if the +Minions become popular.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisx View Post
    SPECIFICATIONS

    Size ETRTO TPI Bead Weight (g) Compound Max PSI Tech Color
    26X2.80 71-559 60 FOLDABLE 1,000 DUAL 35 EXO/TR Black
    26X2.80 71-559 120 FOLDABLE 940 3C MAXX TERRA 35 3C/EXO/TR Black


    Which sounds better, 60 or 120 tpi?
    The 120 for sure. It's lighter, more supple, and is the 3c triple compound lasts longer. I always prefer 120 over 60.

    Also, the High roller would be a good addition to the plus size line up. It's a good all around tire with ramped center knobs that roll decent for an aggressive knob tire. I've run it as well as the DHF/DHR in 2.35 and 2.5, (DHF).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornfield View Post
    I've never tried a Minion, closest I have is a 2.4" Chunky Monkey and an Ardent. I'd like to see a 26" Rekon/Ikon+, as well as a 2.8 Minion. Would be really cool to see a 2.8" CM!

    The Chunky is not a bad tire, but in pretty much every respect, the Minion blows it out of the water.


    IMO, and YMMV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scrublover View Post
    The Chunky is not a bad tire, but in pretty much every respect, the Minion blows it out of the water.


    IMO, and YMMV.
    I am very excite!

    The only other 26" tire I need to add to my collection would be a Dirt Wizard, until more 26+ tires come out, that is.
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    Thanks for sharing the Conti vid, Carl... Kewl stuff!
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    Bumping just cause... 26+ not yet for sale on Maxxis site. Though I did (finally) notice that the 27.5 DHF 2.8 3C is $110 retail. Guessing 26+ will be similar. Pretty steep but life is too short to ride crappy tires.

    I think the release is going to be timed w/ Sea Otter at this point. 26+ isn't exactly going to be some big reveal for Maxxis so it's probably just rolled into a larger marketing /release agenda. I'm all about speculation this lovely morning.

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    saw a pic of a 26 x 2.8 120 tpi on instagram from elektrofred, from Germany I believe! he has one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carl Mega View Post
    Bumping just cause... 26+ not yet for sale on Maxxis site. Though I did (finally) notice that the 27.5 DHF 2.8 3C is $110 retail. Guessing 26+ will be similar. Pretty steep but life is too short to ride crappy tires.

    I think the release is going to be timed w/ Sea Otter at this point. 26+ isn't exactly going to be some big reveal for Maxxis so it's probably just rolled into a larger marketing /release agenda. I'm all about speculation this lovely morning.
    They were "on the water" a week ago, so it should be any day now. And yeah, gotta get one even tho it may be pricey. Just think of it as doing your part to make 26+ a thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carl Mega View Post
    Pretty steep but life is too short to ride crappy tires.
    Especially if it's pretty steep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornfield View Post
    They were "on the water" a week ago, so it should be any day now. And yeah, gotta get one even tho it may be pricey. Just think of it as doing your part to make 26+ a thing.
    Well, my LBS said they could get the B+ version to me for $80, and expected the 26+ to be the same (which is high, but not terrible). Also, they said they couldn't order from QBP yet, but could see it in whatever system they were using (so it was coming soon).

    Hopefully it's really soon, I'm anxious to give them a go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick2cents View Post
    Well, my LBS said they could get the B+ version to me for $80, and expected the 26+ to be the same (which is high, but not terrible). Also, they said they couldn't order from QBP yet, but could see it in whatever system they were using (so it was coming soon).

    Hopefully it's really soon, I'm anxious to give them a go.
    I realized I never replied to Maxxis, so I asked again about an availability date. I also asked about getting them through QBP. Still waiting on a reply.

    I think it's time to start checking their site like every other hour, lol! I hope they will be closer to $80!

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    Seems like the only pics that I have seen of these Maxxis 2.8s show them mounted on what look to be Surly Rabbit Holes (50 mm outer, ~44 mm inner). We might be pretty disappointed in the section width if they aren't mounted on at least an i39 mm Dually...

    Has anyone who's hot on these tires looked into the actual dimensions of the 27.5 versions on various rim widths at the sub-20 psi pressures that we plus riders use? They're not on my wish list at this point, so I haven't sunk the time to research it.

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    Ok - just found the side view of it on the Stan's Baron wheel (i35 mm). Can't tell much about width from a side view though. (I'd edit my above post, but the edit function is only pulling up a portion of it?)

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    I currently have a 27.5x2.8 minion on my Altitude and it's significantly smaller than the Nobby Nic 2.8 I had before it (30mm internal rims) and honestly in my dry riding conditions less grippy. I just ordered another Nobby Nic and the minion will become a spare.

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    Here's a pic from mtbr article that shows the 2.8 on an 40i rim next to a 2.3. I wish I had gotten a bit closer with an i35 rim (WTB Asym), but feel it should be fine on the 29i that I have. There's only one way to find out, eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StevePodraza View Post
    saw a pic of a 26 x 2.8 120 tpi on instagram from elektrofred, from Germany I believe! he has one!
    I saw that tire on instagram and see that he is using Syntace 28.5i, so he must also feel the size will work fine. It'll be interesting to see once he gets it mounted up. He must have insider connections, doubt he bought that tire retail.

    Walt likes to run 3" Chupacabras on skinny pizza cutter rims at higher pressures, IIRC, so it's really personal preference.

    Here's an interesting artical comparing NN to Minion. https://www.worldwidecyclery.com/blo...lus-size-tires
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    Quote Originally Posted by GRPABT1 View Post
    I currently have a 27.5x2.8 minion on my Altitude and it's significantly smaller than the Nobby Nic 2.8 I had before it (30mm internal rims) and honestly in my dry riding conditions less grippy. I just ordered another Nobby Nic and the minion will become a spare.
    Maxxis tire section widths are often >0.2" narrower than the stated width, from what I've seen over the years. Schwalbes run perhaps the closest to stated size of any brand.

    When I started looking into 'wide' tires at a nearby LBS, the Schwalbe Muddy Mary 2.5 absolutely dwarfed the Maxxis 2.5 tires mounted on the same width rim. The Maxxis 2.5 was actually the same width as the Performance Pisgah 2.35 that I was running at the time. Unfortunately, I couldn't find any more 2.5 Muddy Marys to buy, But ended up with some 2.4 Big Bettys that were still larger and lighter than any other big tires I could find.

    Ah, but then in Feb 2014 I bought my first DW 2.75 and built wheels with Dually rims

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    Cornfield - Thanks for the info!

    It looks like the 26 x 2.8 Maxxis dimensions may close to the Ranger 2.8 when mounted on 26+ rim widths.

    I'm hoping that Maxxis will make a 26+ High Roller or Rekon. And 3.0 width as well.

    And I'd definitely like to see Schwalbe make 26+ tires.

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    Maxxis said they will make more 26+ tires if the Minions are popular.
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    I don't think I've seen anyone ask this, but does anyone know how well the Surly Knards 26x3.0 compare to the WTB Rangers 26x3.0?

    Thanks~

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    26+ tire dimensions at 15 psi on i39 mm Dually rims:

    Dirt Wizard 2.75 120 tpi: 2.65" section, 2.78" knobs, 27.38" diameter

    Ranger 2.8 Fast/Light 60 tpi: 2.65" section, 2.71" knobs, 27.44" diameter

    Ranger 3.0 Grippy/Light 60 tpi: 2.80" section, 2.95" knobs, 27.68" diameter

    Notes:

    DW 2.75 and Ranger 3.0 design internal rim width is 45 mm, so the above widths would increase if mounted on i45 rims.

    Dimensions above were taken after the tires had been in service, which is sometimes larger than measurements made before being ridden on.

    Widths at 35 psi were typically 0.05" wider than at 15 psi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nubcakes View Post
    I don't think I've seen anyone ask this, but does anyone know how well the Surly Knards 26x3.0 compare to the WTB Rangers 26x3.0?

    Thanks~
    I have the Ranger 3.0, but not the Knard. Here is what I've picked up on though:

    Knard dimensions are available on the Surly website. The Knard is a bit wider and taller than the Ranger 3.0.

    More importantly, from what I 've seen posted, the Knard is very sketchy in corners. For me, the Ranger 3.0 High Grip/Light is the most confident cornering tire I've ever used. The DW 2.75 is sometimes drifty for me, perhaps due to the mini knobs in the transition area, perhaps due to the fairly hard tread compound.

    BTW, I'd love to see a Ranger 3.0 mounted on a Marge Lite rim! Thinking ahead to next winter...

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    I rode the 27.5 X 2.8 Maxxis Rekons on i40's and they were huge and delicious. Can't wait for these minions to finally arrive!

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    Quote Originally Posted by allenms View Post
    BTW, I'd love to see a Ranger 3.0 mounted on a Marge Lite rim! Thinking ahead to next winter...

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    Your welcome! 26x3.0 Tough and Fast Rangers on Marge Lites on a fatbike designed for 26x4.0 with 80mm rims.

    It feels very nimble, but does not have the the greatest grip compared to Husker Du/Dillanger 4. It does however roll stupid fast compared to those fatbike tires on the same rim. On a 9 mile course that would take me 54-ish minutes on the 45-nrth tires (dry earth), I can do in around 48-ish minutes now with the Rangers on.

    P.S. - For curiosity and giggles I put old worn out 2.35s on marge lites. It "works" but the profile is a little too... Flat. Go back a few pages for my opinions on the matter!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornfield View Post
    I realized I never replied to Maxxis, so I asked again about an availability date. I also asked about getting them through QBP. Still waiting on a reply.

    I think it's time to start checking their site like every other hour, lol! I hope they will be closer to $80!

    This might have been posted here already, oh well!

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    Maxxis measure their tyres at their maximum pressure, and they measure at the outer rubber layer of the tyre. Many other manufacturers use more realistic pressure and measure as the carcass so subtract the outer rubber layer. After years of bad press and customer feedback you'd think they'd just start making them bigger to please the people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J: View Post
    Corn, you know what front rim is there?? Looks familiar, except never seen it laced to a front disc hub
    It looks like a Mulefut without the cutouts, or maybe you can't see them in that pic? Same as what Maxxis shows their +Minions on at their website.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cornfield View Post
    It looks like a Mulefut without the cutouts, or maybe you can't see them in that pic? Same as what Maxxis shows their +Minions on at their website.
    Ya can't really tell from the pic. But the rest of the profile looks like the 11mm offset spoke drilling, spokes must be @ parallel!
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    The Ti RSD Sergent does come equipped with Mulefuts.
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